New Redemption rates - effective 16th of Feb

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Just got an email informing me about updated redemption rates.

It seems like points required are going up. Return flight to Asia from 80k to 110k before 15% discount on business class.
This makes it equal to Singapore Airlines so not great value anymore.
 
I haven't received any email either and this is from 2 email accounts for 2 Enrich accounts: 1 based in Oz and the other based in Malaysia. I did see some ad about something 'exciting' coming on Feb 16. Could MH be following in the footsteps of QF and their 'enhancements'??
 
Big devaluation. I haven't got enough points to redeem to take advantage of the old tables. Nice while it lasted-six seats in J for 51k to Europe was an amazing find for me but can see it doesnt make much business sense (i've only ever done one revenue fare)
 
Got more info from another site. Burn rates generally increasing but earn rates are being restructured as well to reflect fare bucket, which is fairer really. Minimum Y earn will head down to 25% instead of 50%. Their Y fares are ridiculously cheap, so I don't have a problem with that. SQ's cheapest fares only earn 10%! More expensive fare buckets will earn more.
 
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The 10,000 band is a real kicker-looks like it takes in all the obvious Au-Europe redemptions except IST (eg ADL-CDG is 10015 miles).

At 115K (98K after discount) plus hefty YQ, it would seem availability is the only thing that would be in MH's favour
 
A shame...during a 50% discount promo 2 years ago, I redeemed 200K Enrich miles (from prev. MH travel and Amex TF) for 5x Syd-Kul J return.
 
Trying to take a glass half-full approach, it might make discount promos more attractive
 
For all Australia to Europe redemptions, we now fall into Zone 6 (given that the miles from all ports serviced by MH exceed 10000 one way - excepting IST but that isnt the most attractive destination compared to CDG / LHR which are serviced by the A380).. On a basic level, the return redemption goes from 120000 points (102K with the online discount) to 230000 (195K with online discount).

Given the financial difficulties and brand issues that MH are facing, it seems strange to discourage pax from travelling.

Whilst mileage redemption isnt a huge earner (compared to revenue tickets), they are still selling the points to card issuers. American Express, for example, only pay MH when I redeem miles. And now I will redeem a lot less (or with other carriers for the same price) meaning that they are losing a revenue stream. And the surcharges on redemption tickets are quite high (again, compared to other carriers). I dont imagine that i am the only person in this situation.

In short - MH was attractive because the amount of points required was lower than their competition. The product is not the same standard as their competitors, but that was a sacrifice worth making based on cost. Now, with pricing the same as other carriers, they will likely be further down the list.
 
Agreed. The IST-KUL J flight I took had a pretty awful angled seat, whereas the KUL-LHR and KUL-SYD flights were good
 
And I chose to fly with MH (which didn't enthuse anyone else I spoke to much including my wife) purely to get points for a redemption. I am unlikely to do that again and suspect I am not alone
 
I also notice disc Y accruals have dropped from 50pc to 25pc. Following BA and EK down.
 
I noticed in the chart a redemption rate for companion travel. Can someone tell me if that is applied to online redemptions and if so does it still attract the 15% online discount?
 
I noticed in the chart a redemption rate for companion travel. Can someone tell me if that is applied to online redemptions and if so does it still attract the 15% online discount?

IIRC, the companion fare can only be used when the primary fare is a regular commercial cash fare.
So you have to book and pay for the first fare (which can be done on line),
then call the Call Centre to redeem the companion fare.
So no, booking the companion fare cannot be done on line.
 
BA, EK and now MH, who else this year already?? I think the big one is coming.. AA and maybe QF too.
 
I think the big one is coming.. AA and maybe QF too.

AA and QF just seem to be throttling availability in premium cabins. But can't help but think an enhancement (or should that be enhAAncement?) of the AA redemption table is on the way with AA once the merging of AAdvantage & US DM is bedded down.
 
At least the oneworld charts remain untouched, which leads to the crazy situation where a return to Europe on QF, CX, BA or QR will require less miles than on MH :!: Also, oneworld multi carrier award @ 200,000 miles for up to 35,000 miles still seems OK.
 
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