Complete List of Fifth-Freedom Routes

Many fifth-freedom routes pass through LAX
Los Angeles International Airport. Photo: Adobe Stock.

Fifth freedom flights are international routes that neither start nor end in the operating airline’s home country. They typically operate as a “tag flight” extension to a flight that originates in the airline’s hub.

For example, Qantas flight QF1 operates from Sydney to London via Singapore. The Singapore-London leg of QF1 is a fifth-freedom flight because Qantas is able to sell tickets to passengers who are just travelling on the Singapore-London portion – even though Qantas is an Australian airline.

Qantas Airbus A380
Qantas operates a fifth-freedom route from Singapore to London. Photo: Troy Mortier on Unsplash.

Qantas also operates a route from Sydney to New York via Auckland.

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Emirates operates a wide variety of interesting fifth freedom routes including Sydney-Christchurch, Miami-Bogota, Seychelles-Antananarivo and Singapore-Phnom Penh.

Emirates First Class suite 1A on the Boeing 777-300ER
What a treat: You could book Emirates First Class from Singapore to Cambodia. Photo: Matt Graham.

Sadly, Emirates will soon end service on its Melbourne-Singapore fifth-freedom route. Turkish Airlines launched its own flights between Melbourne and Singapore earlier this year, with those services continuing to Istanbul. In December 2024, Turkish Airlines will also start flying from Sydney to Istanbul via Kuala Lumpur.

Fifth-freedom flights can be great for numerous reasons:

  • They’re usually cheap
  • Excellent award availability
  • They typically use wide-body long-haul aircraft
  • An opportunity to sample airlines you would otherwise never fly
  • Can be handy for round-the-world bookings when you want to fly somewhere other than an alliance hub airport
EVA Air Boeing 787 Dreamliner at Suvarnabhumi Airport, Bangkok
Taiwan-based EVA Air operates multiple fifth-freedom routes between Bangkok and Europe. Photo: Matt Graham.

Our list of fifth-freedom routes

Wondering what other routes exist? We’ve put together a complete list of global fifth-freedom routes!

The table below includes all known international tag flights that can be booked as standalone journeys. This list is in alphabetical order by airline and is updated periodically.

AirlineOriginDestinationNotesLast Verified
AegeanLarnaca (LCA)Tel Aviv (TLV)10/09/24
AegeanSkopje (SKP)Sarajevo (SJJ)10/09/24
AegeanLarnaca (LCA)Rome (FCO)Seasonal, launches April 202524/10/24
Aer LingusManchester (MAN)Bridgetown (BGI)Seasonal10/09/24
Aer LingusManchester (MAN)New York (JFK)10/09/24
Aer LingusManchester (MAN)Orlando (MCO)10/09/24
Air BotswanaHarare (HRE)Lusaka (LUN)One-way only10/09/24
AircalinBangkok (BKK)Paris (CDG)Starts 11/12/2412/10/24
AircalinNadi (NAN)Papeete (PPT)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful10/09/24
AircalinNadi (NAN)Wallis Island (WLS)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful10/09/24
Air CairoOuagadougou (OUA)Dakar (DSS)29/02/24
Air CanadaSao Paulo (GRU)Buenos Aires (EZE)10/09/24
Air CanadaLondon (LHR)Delhi (DEL)Seasonal, starts 27/10/2410/09/24
Air CaraïbesCancun (CUN)Paris (ORY)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful11/12/23
Air ChinaMadrid (MAD)Sao Paulo (GRU)10/09/24
Air ChinaMadrid (MAD)Havana (HAV)10/09/24
Air Cote D’IvoireLibreville (LBV)Cotonou (COO)10/09/24
Air FranceLos Angeles (LAX)Papeete (PPT)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful10/09/24
Air NiuginiHoniara (HIR)Nadi (NAN)10/09/24
Air NiuginiHoniara (HIR)Port Vila (VLI)10/09/24
Air PeaceAbidjan (ABJ)Dakar (DSS)10/09/24
Air PeaceBanjul (BJL)Dakar (DSS)10/09/24
Air SenegalBanjul (BJL)Freetown (FNA)10/09/24
Air SenegalCotonou (COO)Douala (DLA)10/09/24
Air SenegalDouala (DLA)Libreville (LBV)10/09/24
Air Tahiti NuiLos Angeles (LAX)Paris (CDG)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful10/09/24
Air Tahiti NuiSeattle (SEA)Paris (CDG)Ends January 202526/11/24
Air TanzaniaHarare (HRE)Lusaka (LUN)One-way only29/02/24
Air TanzaniaLusaka (LUN)Lubumbashi (FBM)One-way only26/11/24
Azores AirlinesFunchal (FNC)New York (JFK)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful10/09/24
AzulCuracao (CUR)Fort Lauderdale (FLL)Starts 09/12/202411/08/24
Batik Air MalaysiaDenpasar (DPS)Brisbane (BNE)10/09/24
Batik Air MalaysiaDenpasar (DPS)Sydney (SYD)10/09/24
Batik Air MalaysiaDenpasar (DPS)Melbourne (MEL)10/09/24
Batik Air MalaysiaDenpasar (DPS)Perth (PER)10/09/24
Batik Air MalaysiaTaipei (TPE)Sapporo (CTS)Seasonal11/12/23
Batik Air MalaysiaTaipei (TPE)Osaka (KIX)10/09/24
Batik Air MalaysiaTaipei (TPE)Nagoya (NGO)10/09/24
Batik Air MalaysiaTaipei (TPE)Okinawa (OKA)10/09/24
Batik Air MalaysiaKaohsiung (KHH)Nagoya (NGO)10/09/24
BeondDubai (DWC)Zurich (ZRH)12/10/24
Bhutan AirlinesCalcutta (CCU)Bangkok (BKK)10/09/24
Bhutan AirlinesDelhi (DEL)Kathmandu (KTM)10/09/24
British AirwaysSingapore (SIN)Sydney (SYD)10/09/24
British AirwaysRio de Janeiro (GIG)Buenos Aires (EZE)10/09/24
British AirwaysNassau (NAS)Grand Cayman (GCM)29/02/24
British AirwaysNassau (NAS)Providenciales (PLS)29/02/24
British AirwaysAntigua (ANU)Aruba (AUA)29/02/24
British AirwaysAntigua (ANU)St Kitts (SKB)29/02/24
British AirwaysSaint Lucia (UVF)Grenada (GND)29/02/24
British AirwaysSaint Lucia (UVF)Tobago (TAB)29/02/24
British AirwaysSaint Lucia (UVF)Georgetown (GEO)29/02/24
Brussels AirlinesFreetown (FNA)Monrovia (ROB)In one direction only10/09/24
Caribbean AirlinesGeorgetown (GEO)New York (JFK)10/09/24
Cathay PacificTaipei (TPE)Nagoya (NGO)10/09/24
Cathay PacificTaipei (TPE)Osaka (KIX)10/09/24
Cathay PacificTaipei (TPE)Tokyo (NRT)10/09/24
Cathay PacificBangkok (BKK)Singapore (SIN)10/09/24
China AirlinesBrisbane (BNE)Auckland (AKL)10/09/24
China AirlinesMelbourne (MEL)Auckland (AKL)Starts 03/12/2410/09/24
China EasternSydney (SYD)Auckland (AKL)10/09/24
China EasternColombo (CMB)Male (MLE)17/11/24
Copa AirlinesSan Jose (SJO)Guatemala (GUA)10/09/24
Copa AirlinesManagua (MGA)Guatemala (GUA)10/09/24
Copa AirlinesSan Jose (SJO)Managua (MGA)10/09/24
Discover AirlinesWindhoek (WDH)Victoria Falls (VFA)10/09/24
Druk AirBagdogra (IXB)Bangkok (BKK)11/12/23
Druk AirDhaka (DAC)Bangkok (BKK)11/12/23
Druk AirGuwahati (GAU)Singapore (SIN)11/12/23
EgyptAirDjibouti (JIB)Mogadishu (MGQ)10/09/24
EmiratesSydney (SYD)Christchurch (CHC)10/09/24
EmiratesSingapore (SIN)Melbourne (MEL)Ending soon (exact date TBC)10/09/24
EmiratesSingapore (SIN)Phnom Penh (PNH)10/09/24
EmiratesBangkok (BKK)Hong Kong (HKG)10/09/24
EmiratesMale (MLE)Colombo (CMB)10/09/24
EmiratesLarnaca (LCA)Malta (MLA)10/09/24
EmiratesAthens (ATH)Newark (EWR)10/09/24
EmiratesMilan (MXP)New York (JFK)10/09/24
EmiratesAccra (ACC)Abidjan (ABJ)10/09/24
EmiratesHarare (HRE)Lusaka (LUN)10/09/24
EmiratesConakry (CKY)Dakar (DSS)One direction only19/06/24
EmiratesRio de Janeiro (GIG)Buenos Aires (EZE)10/09/24
EmiratesBarcelona (BCN)Mexico City (MEX)10/09/24
EmiratesMiami (MIA)Bogota (BOG)10/09/24
EmiratesSeychelles (SEZ)Antananarivo (TNR)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesSingapore (SIN)Kuala Lumpur (KUL)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesBangkok (BKK)Hong Kong (HKG)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesSeoul (ICN)Tokyo (NRT)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesSao Paulo (GRU)Buenos Aires (EZE)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesStockholm (ARN)Oslo (OSL)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesGeneva (GVA)Manchester (MAN)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesMilan (MXP)Zurich (ZRH)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesLome (LFW)Newark (EWR)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesLome (LFW)Washington (IAD)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesAbidjan (ABJ)New York (JFK)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesHarare (HRE)Lusaka (LUN)29/02/24
Ethiopian AirlinesBamako (BKO)Dakar (DSS)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesBlantyre (BLZ)Johannesburg (JNB)11/12/23
Ethiopian AirlinesKigali (KGL)Bujumbura (BJM)11/12/23
Ethiopian AirlinesMalabo (SSG)Douala (DLA)11/12/23
Ethiopian AirlinesLilongwe (LLW)Lusaka (LUN)11/12/23
Ethiopian AirlinesLilongwe (LLW)Harare (HRE)11/12/23
Ethiopian AirlinesDar es Salaam (DAR)Blantyre (BLZ)11/12/23
Ethiopian AirlinesYaounde (NSI)Libreville (LBV)11/12/23
Ethiopian AirlinesOuagadougou (OUA)Conakry (CKY)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesAbidjan (ABJ)Conakry (CKY)10/09/24
Ethiopian AirlinesMonrovia (ROB)Conakry (CKY)Starts 30/11/2410/09/24
EVA AirBangkok (BKK)Vienna (VIE)10/09/24
EVA AirBangkok (BKK)Amsterdam (AMS)10/09/24
EVA AirBangkok (BKK)London (LHR)10/09/24
Fiji AirwaysApia (APW)Honolulu (HNL)10/09/24
Fiji AirwaysKiribati (CXI)Honolulu (HNL)10/09/24
FinnairCopenhagen (CPH)Doha (DOH)10/09/24
FinnairStockholm (ARN)Doha (DOH)10/09/24
FinnairStockholm (ARN)Bergen (BGO)10/09/24
FinnairFaro (FAO)Lanzarote (ACE)Seasonal, starts 27/10/2416/11/23
flydubaiMale (MLE)Colombo (CMB)10/09/24
French beeSan Francisco (SFO)Papeete (PPT)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful29/02/24
GOL Linhas AereasBogota (BOG)Buenos Aires (EZE)Ends 3/2/2526/11/24
Gulf AirColombo (CMB)Male (MLE)10/09/24
Gulf AirBangkok (BKK)Singapore (SIN)Ends 27/10/2414/09/24
Gulf AirLarnaca (LCA)Athens (ATH)10/09/24
Gulf AirMilan (MXP)Geneva (GVA)Seasonal10/09/24
JetstarAuckland (AKL)Rarotonga (RAR)10/09/24
Jetstar AsiaManila (MNL)Osaka (KIX)10/09/24
Kenya AirwaysBangkok (BKK)Guangzhou (CAN)10/09/24
Kenya AirwaysAbidjan (ABJ)Dakar (DSS)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysAccra (ACC)Dakar (DSS)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysFreetown (FNA)Accra (ACC)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysMonrovia (ROB)Accra (ACC)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysEntebbe (EBB)Bangui (BGF)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysBangui (BGF)Douala (DLA)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysLivingstone (LVI)Cape Town (CPT)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysVictoria Falls (VFA)Cape Town (CPT)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysHarare (HRE)Lusaka (LUN)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysLilongwe (LLW)Nampula (APL)29/02/24
Kenya AirwaysLubumbashi (FBM)Ndola (NLA)29/02/24
KLMSingapore (SIN)Denpasar (DPS)10/09/24
KLMKuala Lumpur (KUL)Jakarta (CGK)10/09/24
KLMBuenos Aires (EZE)Santiago (SCL)10/09/24
LAM MozambiqueHarare (HRE)Lusaka (LUN)10/09/24
LATAM AirlinesAuckland (AKL)Sydney (SYD)10/09/24
LATAM AirlinesPunta Cana (PUJ)Miami (MIA)10/09/24
LOT Polish AirlinesBudapest (BUD)Seoul (ICN)10/09/24
LOT Polish AirlinesVilnius (VNO)London City (LCY)10/09/24
Mauritanian AirlinesConakry (CKY)Dakar (DSS)10/09/24
Mauritanian AirlinesBamako (BKO)Dakar (DSS)10/09/24
Mauritanian AirlinesLibreville (LBV)Cotonou (COO)10/09/24
Nauru AirlinesTarawa (TRW)Majuro (MAJ)10/09/24
Nauru AirlinesMajuro (MAJ)Pohnpei (PNI)10/09/24
Nauru AirlinesPohnpei (PNI)Koror (ROR)Island Hopper10/09/24
Nauru AirlinesTarawa (TRW)Kiribati (CXI)Island Hopper10/09/24
Nauru AirlinesBrisbane (BNE)Koror (ROR)10/09/24
QantasSingapore (SIN)London (LHR)10/09/24
QantasAuckland (AKL)New York (JFK)10/09/24
Qatar AirwaysLusaka (LUN)Harare (HRE)10/09/24
Qatar AirwaysHo Chi Minh City (SGN)Phnom Penh (PNH)10/09/24
Qatar AirwaysDjibouti (JIB)Mogadishu (MGQ)10/09/24
Royal Air MarocBissau (OXB)Praia (RAI)10/09/24
Royal Air MarocDouala (DLA)Bangui (BGF)One direction only10/09/24
Royal BruneiDubai (DXB)London (LHR)10/09/24
RwandAirHarare (HRE)Cape Town (CPT)Ends 27/10/2421/09/24
RwandAirLusaka (LUN)JohannesburgEnds 27/10/2421/09/24
RwandAirAbuja (ABV)Accra (ACC)11/12/23
RwandAirDouala (DLA)Cotonou (COO)11/12/23
RwandAirLibreville (LBV)Cotonou (COO)10/09/24
RwandAirDouala (DLA)Bangui (BGF)29/02/24
RwandAirBrazzaville (BZV)Douala (DLA)11/12/23
RwandAirEntebbe (EBB)Mumbai (BOM)11/12/23
ScootTaipei (TPE)Seoul (ICN)10/09/24
ScootTaipei (TPE)Tokyo (NRT)10/09/24
ScootTaipei (TPE)Sapporo (CTS)10/09/24
ScootAthens (ATH)Berlin (BER)10/09/24
Singapore AirlinesMilan (MXP)Barcelona (BCN)10/09/24
Singapore AirlinesFrankfurt (FRA)New York (JFK)10/09/24
Singapore AirlinesManchester (MAN)Houston (IAH)Ends April 202510/09/24
Singapore AirlinesTokyo (NRT)Los Angeles (LAX)19/06/24
Sky AirlineMontevideo (MVD)Salvador (SSA)22/02/24
Sky AirlineMontevideo (MVD)Florianópolis (FLN)22/02/24
Solomon AirlinesAuckland (AKL)Port Vila (VLI)10/09/24
Solomon AirlinesBrisbane (BNE)Port Vila (VLI)10/09/24
Solomon AirlinesBrisbane (BNE)Espiritu Santo (SON)10/09/24
Somon AirTrabzon (TZX)Munich (MUC)10/09/24
South African AirwaysAccra (ACC)Abidjan (ABJ)10/09/24
Surinam AirwaysGeorgetown (GEO)Miami (MIA)10/09/24
Surinam AirwaysAruba (AUA)Curaçao (CUR)10/09/24
Surinam AirwaysCuraçao (CUR)Miami (MIA)10/09/24
Surinam AirwaysGeorgetown (GEO)Bridgetown (BGI)10/09/24
SWISSSao Paulo (GRU)Buenos Aires (EZE)10/09/24
TAP Air PortugalAccra (ACC)Sao Tome (TMS)10/09/24
Thai AirAsiaKaohsiung (KHH)Tokyo (NRT)10/09/24
Thai AirAsiaTaipei (TPE)Okinawa (OKA)10/09/24
Thai Vietjet AirTaipei (TPE)Osaka (KIX)10/09/24
Thai Vietjet AirTaipei (TPE)Okinawa (OKA)Seasonal26/10/24
Thai Vietjet AirTaipei (TPE)Sapporo (CTS)Seasonal26/10/24
TunisairDakar (DSS)Conakry (CKY)11/12/23
TunisairAbidjan (ABJ)Ouagadougou (OUA)10/09/24
Turkish AirlinesSao Paulo (GRU)Buenos Aires (EZE)10/09/24
Turkish AirlinesSao Paulo (GRU)Santiago (SCL)Starts 18/12/2410/09/24
Turkish AirlinesOuagadougou (OUA)Conakry (CKY)10/09/24
Turkish AirlinesOuagadougou (OUA)Freetown (FNA)10/09/24
Turkish AirlinesN’Djamena (NDJ)Niamey (NIM)10/09/24
Turkish AirlinesLibreville (LBV)Luanda (LAD)10/09/24
Turkish AirlinesSingapore (SIN)Melbourne (MEL)10/09/24
Turkish AirlinesKuala Lumpur (KUL)Sydney (SYD)Starts 05/12/2412/09/24
United AirlinesKoror (ROR)Manila (MNL)10/09/24
United AirlinesKwajalein (KWA)Kosrae (KSA)Part of the Island Hopper10/09/24
United AirlinesKwajalein (KWA)Pohnpei (PNI)Part of the Island Hopper10/09/24
United AirlinesMajuro (MAJ)Pohnpei (PNI)Part of the Island Hopper10/09/24
United AirlinesChuuk (TKK)Pohnpei (PNI)Part of the Island Hopper10/09/24
United AirlinesTokyo (NRT)Saipan (SPN)Not technically fifth-freedom but useful10/09/24
United AirlinesTokyo (NRT)Cebu (CEB)Starts 27/10/2410/09/24
United AirlinesTokyo (NRT)Ulaanbaatar (UBN)Seasonal, starts 01/05/2412/10/24
United AirlinesTokyo (NRT)Kaohsiung (KHH)Starts 11/07/202412/10/24
Vietnam AirlinesVientiane (VTE)Phnom Penh (PNH)10/09/24
Vietnam AirlinesLuang Prabang (LPQ)Siem Reap (SAI)10/09/24
Virgin AtlanticBridgetown (BGI)Grenada (GND)10/09/24
Virgin AtlanticBridgetown (BGI)St Vincent (SVD)10/09/24

To discuss fifth-freedom routes, or suggest a route that should be added to this list, please feel free to join the discussion on the Australian Frequent Flyer forum!

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· Can be handy for RTW bookings when you want to fly somewhere other than an alliance hub airport

That was the point that got me interested, when I read Mattg's 'Tips and tricks' piece on Fifth Freedoms

I'll have to see if fifth Freedom flights are regularly offered or not in, say, a XONEX schedule, but wouldn't it be great to find a one world carrier with a fifth freedom flight like CDG-FRA - would save a sector!

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Well as we know, Qantas' LAX-JFK sector is not a fifth-freedom flight because seats can only be sold in conjunction with a QF international flight to/from Australia. I was reading this morning that apparently Qantas has been fined for selling seats in conjunction with international codeshare flights on partner airlines: Qantas Is Being Fined For Illegally Selling Tickets On Their New York To Los Angeles Flight - One Mile at a Time

Does this mean you specifically have to fly Qantas from SYD/MEL/BNE to LAX on the same ticket to be able use this flight? What about if you're flying a RTW ticket and fly (for example) SYD-HKG-LAX-JFK? Would you be allowed to book a seat on QF11?

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Well as we know, Qantas' LAX-JFK sector is not a fifth-freedom flight because seats can only be sold in conjunction with a QF international flight to/from Australia. I was reading this morning that apparently Qantas has been fined for selling seats in conjunction with international codeshare flights on partner airlines: Qantas Is Being Fined For Illegally Selling Tickets On Their New York To Los Angeles Flight - One Mile at a Time

Does this mean you specifically have to fly Qantas from SYD/MEL/BNE to LAX on the same ticket to be able use this flight? What about if you're flying a RTW ticket and fly (for example) SYD-HKG-LAX-JFK? Would you be allowed to book a seat on QF11?

You could set up a dummy itinerary in the OW online planning & booking tool, go to 'select flights' and see if the QF11 LAX-JFK option appears.

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Well as we know, Qantas' LAX-JFK sector is not a fifth-freedom flight because seats can only be sold in conjunction with a QF international flight to/from Australia. I was reading this morning that apparently Qantas has been fined for selling seats in conjunction with international codeshare flights on partner airlines: Qantas Is Being Fined For Illegally Selling Tickets On Their New York To Los Angeles Flight - One Mile at a Time

Does this mean you specifically have to fly Qantas from SYD/MEL/BNE to LAX on the same ticket to be able use this flight? What about if you're flying a RTW ticket and fly (for example) SYD-HKG-LAX-JFK? Would you be allowed to book a seat on QF11?

It appears from the content of the OMAAT article that your scenario is specifically excluded. I think????

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It appears from the content of the OMAAT article that your scenario is specifically excluded. I think????

Well that was my take on it, but I've just checked and QF11/12 LAX-JFK is still being offered as part of a Oneworld Explorer itinerary when flying SYD-HKG-LAX-JFK.

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Well as we know, Qantas' LAX-JFK sector is not a fifth-freedom flight because seats can only be sold in conjunction with a QF international flight to/from Australia. I was reading this morning that apparently Qantas has been fined for selling seats in conjunction with international codeshare flights on partner airlines: Qantas Is Being Fined For Illegally Selling Tickets On Their New York To Los Angeles Flight - One Mile at a Time

Does this mean you specifically have to fly Qantas from SYD/MEL/BNE to LAX on the same ticket to be able use this flight? What about if you're flying a RTW ticket and fly (for example) SYD-HKG-LAX-JFK? Would you be allowed to book a seat on QF11?

The JFK tag flights should never be available except when connecting to or from a qantas flight (with or without stopover). Qf was arguing this included their code shares, which DOT has denied. So this really should only leave Qantas flights on qantas metal.

If QF is selling the tag flight in conjunction with other airlines there is a risk passengers could be denied boarding and reaccommodated on AA, even up to the point of arriving at the gate. Qf would risk the second half of the fine becoming payable if they allowed travel.

we saw it with cabotage through lifemiles where carriage was denied even though ticketed.

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The JFK tag flights should never be available except when connecting to or from a qantas flight (with or without stopover). Qf was arguing this included their code shares, which DOT has denied. So this really should only leave Qantas flights on qantas metal.

If QF is selling the tag flight in conjunction with other airlines there is a risk passengers could be denied boarding and reaccommodated on AA, even up to the point of arriving at the gate. Qf would risk the second half of the fine becoming payable if they allowed travel.

we saw it with cabotage through lifemiles where carriage was denied even though ticketed.

But you can still purchase a RTW ticket flying QF SYD-HKG, CX HKG-LAX, then QF LAX-JFK (and onwards to Europe etc.)

By the way, what was the Lifemiles Cabotage issue?

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By the way, what was the Lifemiles Cabotage issue?

Here's a current example, albeit one that can actually be flown 🙂

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But you can still purchase a RTW ticket flying QF SYD-HKG, CX HKG-LAX, then QF LAX-JFK (and onwards to Europe etc.)

By the way, what was the Lifemiles Cabotage issue?

Even if you can still purchase the ticket, that doesn't mean you'll be allowed to fly it!

The Lifemiles cabotage issue was flights between GUM and the USA via TPE. This is a domestic route which was being offered by LM travelling EVA. Someone - ticketed - got denied boarding and subsequently filed a complaint with the DOT. The DOT ruled this violated cabotage rules.

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For the wiki - Air China is now flying houston to panama with fifth freedom rights. COuld be a cood connector to an AA mileage run. Available in all three classes with good award availability too.

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