Instant Upgrades P Ticket

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the AA p tickets, instant upgrade to first class, how do they work? and more importantly, how do they report to Qantas with respect to status credits.
I hope that with a booking class P, even if you don't get the upgrade, and have to sit in economy, it will still report the status credits to Qantas as a P booking, is this the case, I read somewhere else that if you press the issue with the AA staff at the check in counter, it will remain a P booking, not sure if this is true.
 
If you do not get the upgrade the ticket is Y-full economy points and SCs.
This happened to us last year-original flight cancelled,lost our F seats on the next flight-mrsdrron was credited at the full economy rate.
AA cant do a thing re QF points-we did have issues with the flight and because she is also an Aadvantage member she did get AA miles as compensation.But that was because of other issues not the fact we were in Y.Thats why they call them YUPP/KUPP fares-Y upgraded to P so if no P you are Y.
 
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I am looking to do a SC run next month, I watch the flights daily, to see what is happening, and it appears that the flights between the hubs (JFK DFW LAX ORD MIA) are the ones that have the issue with no P seats in first. I have read a post recently that said better to book to a holiday destination or a not so popular city next to a popular one, traditionally these planes are full of people with no intention to go by first. I guess that it is a trade off, risk versus reward, another clue may be the cheaper the fare, the less likely that you will miss out (the need to fill first so that economy seats can be opened up for the masses - think this works well for holiday destinations such as Orlando)
 
When booking on AA.com it does show the fare classes for each segment.

To get the greatest benefit you need to avoid the three class transcontinental 772/762 flights as they'll generally book into I class.
 
I am looking to do a SC run next month, I watch the flights daily, to see what is happening, and it appears that the flights between the hubs (JFK DFW LAX ORD MIA) are the ones that have the issue with no P seats in first. I have read a post recently that said better to book to a holiday destination or a not so popular city next to a popular one, traditionally these planes are full of people with no intention to go by first. I guess that it is a trade off, risk versus reward, another clue may be the cheaper the fare, the less likely that you will miss out (the need to fill first so that economy seats can be opened up for the masses - think this works well for holiday destinations such as Orlando)

I approach researching a status run quite differently from what you seem to be doing. I learned almost everything I know about status runs from reading on this forum (thanks folks!), so you can too, but you'll be reading a while... So here are a few tips, in case you don't know them already.
  • Learn how to use Matrix - ITA Software, in particular the routing rules, and how to search multiple origins and destinations at once. Since the demise of the FareCompare YUPP search tool, I rely much more on this to find city pairs where cheap and rewarding status runs may be possible.
  • Get a subscription to Flight Availability | Upgrades | Frequent Flyer Information, and learn how to look up airfares and routing rules.
  • To help you calculate SC earn, use MileageMonkey; use the "Oneworld Explorer Validator" section with the "Ignore errors" box ticked.
  • Finally, keep asking questions! Many posters are extraordinarily generous with their time, and as long as you're not asking them to reveal all the secrets of their favourite run (lest it become too popular and disappear), you'll typically get answers to any questions you might have.

Happy hunting!
 
Finally, keep asking questions! Many posters are extraordinarily generous with their time, and as long as you're not asking them to reveal all the secrets of their favourite run (lest it become too popular and disappear), you'll typically get answers to any questions you might hav.

As seems to have happened with the Nandi runs! Alas!!
 
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