Hilton Surfers Paradise

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Below is an edited letter I sent to HSP which may be useful to AFFers thinking of this hotel. In short, I've found HSP to run hot and cold and do recommend it for a stay but only on the proviso that it is understood your expectations may or may not be met.


This is feedback for Hilton Surfers Paradise to assist with areas that do need improvement and not a complaint as such and relates to this and previous stays of ours at this hotel. With that in mind, please take these comments as constructive feedback rather than simple whinging.

We have now stayed at HSP residences a number of times in different rooms and have had the opportunity to experience some great Hilton service ......and some pretty bloody ordinary service, to be honest.

I understand that HSP was a "rescued" site to begin with and not all Hilton at initial design stage, so some compromises on the "hard" product had to be made. That said, the ambience of HSP leaves a great deal to be desired. The foyer is just awful and the tunnel that links the towers is akin to a railway underpass. The lack of a porte-cochere makes for a poor first impression and the hard timber and minimalistic furnishings of the Food Store and residences is equally unappealing. With a little bit of design thought, these shortfalls could have been overcome with a Hilton Sydney style drive through for the porte-cochere incorporated in the High Street. The High Street could easily be a combined use thoroughfare with perhaps the Food Store (which is a great idea by the way) fronting The High Street where the jeweler currently is and a foyer/lobby of classy décor behind. This could leave the area currently used by the Food Store to be seating (as we expect in a quality lobby) with plenty of room for various exhibitions (like Hilton South Wharf did with the art exhibition "The Hidden Faces of the Archibald")........a foyer to be proud of, rather than the concrete, unappealing cave that it currently is! Generally speaking, those important first impressions at HSP is "YUCK" (for me at least).

I realise that cannot be easily changed, but now on to the soft product. This can be attended to.......easily. First of all, when telephoning HSP, the phone has never answered for me without automatically being placed on "music on hold". This is not an occasional experience......it's EVERY time I've phoned. That's very poor form which reeks of budget accommodation with too few staff to deal with customers. Disturbingly, this also happens with the Magic button and at times, I've had to hang up because I'd been on hold for far too long. As mentioned previously, the timber dining seating in the residences is uncomfortable and ugly and the lack of wall dressings (art etc) makes the stay feel very sterile rather than warm, easy and enjoyable. At one stay (June 2012), our windows were so filthy that we struggled to see out. In a hotel were the view is highly regarded, clean windows are a must. I went to phone Magic to get them cleaned and the phones (neither) worked in the room. I had to use my mobile to phone the landline (wait forever on hold) before being able to request clean windows and workable phones. Those requests were remade three times before we finally got someone to look at the phones and he fixed one but not the other. The whole stay, we had only one phone (the other one might still not work for all I know) and the windows were never cleaned despite them being safely accessible from the balcony (please see photos attached). I understand there may be demarcation issues for the cleaning staff, but for a hotel the size of HSP that offers stunning views as part of the experience, a window cleaner would be imperative. That same stay (June) also saw us needing to complain multiple times about linen and RUBBISH being left in front of the elevators on our floor. Despite the complaints, this was not attended to. Toiletries seem to be on the scabby side at HSP. We do not seem to get bath salt tablets and cotton bud packs as we do at other Hiltons and the executive lounge, although offering great views, offers a very boring canapé selection. We have experienced just a cheeseboard, sopu and a Mediterranean choice only. Occasionally we've had the rice and chicken dish but there is basically no alternates. Other Hiltons offer alternating canapés like sandwich fingers and fried morsels like baby octopus, calamari, spiced lamb balls etc. At our stay just gone (Nov.2012), no choice of red wine was on offer at all and at our previous stay (June 2012) we went to the executive lounge for afternoon tea only to find nothing on offer except leftovers from breakfast (at 4.30 in the afternoon.....yuck). When asked, the lady simply said as no one was there, they hadn't had the cake sent up.........but then suggested if we wait, she'll have it brought up for happy hour......at 6.00pm! What kind of logic is that?? No wonder no one goes, but it did disappoint us. Are we "no one"? On our last stay (Nov.2012), at check in, I stood in the HHonors priority queue (the only one in the HHonors queue). Two reception ladies were attending to another guest and three others and a gentleman in a suit (manager?) simply continued to natter away between themselves behind the reception counter. Perhaps training was happening or something, but I felt I was simply being ignored. Even a simple acknowledgement that I wasn't totally invisible would have been nice! Compounding this was a long wait for elevators which seem to be used more for cleaner excursions between floors than for the guests comfort (a number of times we've been shoved to the back of the elevator so the cleaning trolley or those black tubs-on-wheels can fit in. I understand there are insufficient elevators, but surely there must be a workable solution (perhaps one elevator locked off for cleaners use only, leaving the rest for guests).

In being honest here, I have to say that the Gold Coast (I'm a Gold Coast resident BTW) has a reputation of being a bogan destination. Of all the Hiltons on the Australian eastern seaboard, HSP seems to be the one living up to that reputation. Everything seems to be done "on the cheap" or "close enough is good enough". That kind of mentality is not what we expect from a Hilton property labeled as a Category 7 hotel. Please don't misunderstand me, we've had some truly excellent service (especially from name deleted, who we cannot praise enough), but that wonderful level of service is the exception rather than the norm with HSP from our experience. We love the fact Hilton has come to the Gold Coast (as we no longer have Conrad) and as we are currently renovating our home, our short break Hilton stays (of which we have many booked) are very important to us remaining "sane" during the renos. It's very disappointing when we arrive and find things less than expected and less than we experience at other Hilton hotels. Important little things, like an in-house multi-movie deal as offered by most other Australian Hiltons and the lacking toiletries are noticed. Hopefully Hilton Surfers Paradise can haul itself out of the bogan mode and actually set itself to the same standard we like to expect from the Hilton group.

We have previously had discussions with (name deleted) about booking the sub-penthouse, but again being honest with you here, the rate is not commensurate with the sub-par level of professionalism we regularly experience at HSP. Perhaps more staff like (name deleted) and less staff recruitment from backpacker hostels may be in order.

I hope I haven't been out of order in offering you this critique and you take it in the spirit it is intended.

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Hilton windows salt encrustation wrecking the view. Requested for them to be cleaned three times. They weren’t cleaned at all during our two day stay despite them being readily and safely accessible from the balcony.


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Rubbish in foyers. This happened daily and remained all day despite requests to remove it.
 
Yes don't waste your time on the 'magic' line. I need a weekend Australian so the quickest way is actually to get off my A and go to the news agent and buy one!!

5*~no way
 
I have a complimentary stay at HSP tomorrow night. Our previous stay was such a disaster we've been reluctant to ever go back. Fingers crossed! The only positive, was the spectacular view and comfie bed. We checked out 2 nights early (around 1am) and it's a dreadful area to drive through. I was sure we'd run over some fornicating teenagers.

However it wasn't as bad as Hilton Taupo, which was a joke from the moment we arrived. The staff should have been in a sheltered workshop. On a positive note, the view and huge apartment were great. Just ruined by the disinterested idiots working there.
 
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However it wasn't as bad as Hilton Taupo, which was a joke from the moment we arrived. The staff should have been in a sheltered workshop. On a positive note, the view and huge apartment were great. Just ruined by the disinterested idiots working there.

Interesting I thought that was a reasonable property when we stayed there ??? When ??? A while ago???

get onto the manager, make them work harder.
 
I forgot to mention the lifts..... yes it was a distressed Raptis Property and the lift core was designed for 4 lifts, but post GFC they clearly designed one out.......well take a cut lunch when you plan to vertically move!
 
Interesting I thought that was a reasonable property when we stayed there ??? When ??? A while ago???

get onto the manager, make them work harder.

February 2012. We complained after the 2nd night as the problems mounted. A young woman phoned us eventually, said sorry and offered us complimentary Internet connection for 1 device for 1 night. We had 2 suites for 3 nights (& 7 devices between us). Never got to see a manager.

We were on a trip to show off the North Island to a UK cousin. This is the fourth time I've flown over to show friends and family around NZ. Twice, I've been embarrassed beyond belief by the terrible experience with hotel & retail staff. :oops:
 
Was thinking of staying there for Aussie day long weekend.

Not sure now.
 
Don't bother with exec lounge if you do. Their Cold breakfast is a pretty ordinary start to the day. You won't have the strength to locate the correct lift to the car park:cool:
 
Did you dine in salt by any chance? If so what is your opinion?

Yes twice.

Menu limited. Specials same both nights. Ran out of rib eye last night. Staff enroute to other better jobs as derived from discussions.

Does LM take this place seriously?

Wine list quite extensive. Ordered the wine before the sommelier turned up!

Tasty food. Great soufflé

Reasonably priced and we dined twice as we didn't have the energy to deal with the swine on the streets.

Would it be considered a top restaurant in Melbourne ? No it wouldn't
 
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February 2012. We complained after the 2nd night as the problems mounted. A young woman phoned us eventually, said sorry and offered us complimentary Internet connection for 1 device for 1 night. We had 2 suites for 3 nights (& 7 devices between us). Never got to see a manager.

We were on a trip to show off the North Island to a UK cousin. This is the fourth time I've flown over to show friends and family around NZ. Twice, I've been embarrassed beyond belief by the terrible experience with hotel & retail staff. :oops:

Not good enough. I used to know the manager there but he's moved on.

What do you do apart from vote with your feet?
 
Arriving this afternoon. Around 3.00 I should think

Will miss you about an hour. Have a good stay and interested to hear what you experience.

As I have said the individual staff are great.
 
Here now. Been in exec lounge waiting for room

This seems to be happening more and more. Last stay we waited until 5pm with the excuse the previous occupant was a diamond and was taking a late check out regardless the fact he was denied it due to Hilton needing the room. I guess it could become very difficult at times for them to manage egos.

What doesn't impress me is when they send you to the exec lounge, there's usually nothing on offer except a coffee or soft drink. Regularly, the afternoon tea doesn't eventuate and of course no hard drinks until happy hour.......at least when Hilton BNE had me wait for the room, they escorted me to the bar and arranged complementary drinks until the room was ready, which occurred before I finished one drink. HSP needs to look at that.....waiting around the pool with a complementary coughtail would be wonderful!
 
This seems to be happening more and more. Last stay we waited until 5pm with the excuse the previous occupant was a diamond and was taking a late check out regardless the fact he was denied it due to Hilton needing the room. I guess it could become very difficult at times for them to manage egos.

What doesn't impress me is when they send you to the exec lounge, there's usually nothing on offer except a coffee or soft drink. Regularly, the afternoon tea doesn't eventuate and of course no hard drinks until happy hour.......at least when Hilton BNE had me wait for the room, they escorted me to the bar and arranged complementary drinks until the room was ready, which occurred before I finished one drink. HSP needs to look at that.....waiting around the pool with a complementary coughtail would be wonderful!

Couldn't agree more. I made a comment to Mrs GPH while we were sitting there ( in the exec lounge) , I said " not really as good as the Sheraton Royal Orchid in BK" ! She countered with " wait till you see the langham in Mongkok"
I find it all a bit sparse and underwhelming. I did consider bringing a bottle or two of Veuve with me. ... But as we are giving Salt a go tonight I decided to pace myself
 
I forgot to mention the lifts..... yes it was a distressed Raptis Property and the lift core was designed for 4 lifts, but post GFC they clearly designed one out.......well take a cut lunch when you plan to vertically move!

Ah yes....the lifts.

Issue 1 - Not enough of them
Issue 2 - Cleaning staff use all lifts to commute between floors
Issue 3 - When they do that they have cleaning trolleys and black tubs on wheels for dirty laundry (I assume) which take up most of the lift
Issue 4 - Staff do not vacate a lift when guests are waiting (we had one guy in a chockers lift with a full size wheelie bin tell us "sorry, next one won't be long) and we'd been standing there for 20 minutes at that point!
Issue 5 - Lifts appear to be programmed incorrectly. I stood in the foyer waiting for a lift down and each time a lift arrived it prioritised the up command. This happened three times before I remembered the solo lift that just traverses between the pool deck and the carparks (misses B1).
Issue 6 - Peak times nearly always sees one or more lifts locked off, presumably for cleaners use, but they monopolise all of them anyway.
Issue 7 - Different lifts miss different basement floors. Some stop at BM some don't, some stop at B1 some don't and some stop at B3 and some don't.
Issue 8 - Residences in the Orchard tower (tall one) cannot exit at Floor 15 (Exec. lounge) without going all the way down to level 2 then changing lifts to go back up to level 15.
Issue 9 - Key cards regularly fail to work in the elevators.
Issue 10 - In the Boulevard tower (the short one) you can get out on level 1 to go to Salt but the keys won't open the door, so you have to go to Ground, walk through the railway underpass and catch another lift to level 1. Conversely, you can go from Salt to the boulevard tower as the keys work in that direction.
Issue 11 - You need a separate card to access level 15 and the executive lounge. They can't programme your room key to do this. Usually the exec key is silver and room key blue, but last stay we ended up with some blue and silver room keys and a silver exec key.....very confusing!

I do note they've recently added lift foyer seating (could also act as a bed depending upon the lift wait times) but they actually double as an oversized laundry hamper to store the soiled laundry for movement later at a less busy time. At my last stay, it appeared they've neglected to tell the cleaners this though!
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Another lift related but more disturbing problem was during my last stay (2 nights) the black tubs were being stored in the fire escape alleys in front of the rubbish shute on the floors. As our keys only give access to our floor, I couldn't check to see if this was just a one off problem or if it was practiced across all floors, but if it's the same again this stay (tonight) I'll be making a complaint to the fire dept. as that's a tragedy waiting to happen and because the tub was across the rubbish shute, rubbish was also being stacked beside it further compounding the blocking of the fire escapes. That's illegal in Qld and I'm sure not Hilton scanctioned.

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