Oneworld Award +++ to Europe Comparison

[dflyerau]

I'm trying to book 2 seats in J to get to Europe through QF and on QF/EK metal They've just quoted me circa $1500 return in taxes per person for J seats. I'd prefer not to be bent over so badly so does anyone have a rough comparison for if I can find flight all the way through on MH/QR etc?

I'm looking for BNE PRG one-way for now on the 22JUN17, but can do ex Sydney or anywhere really to get a more efficient use of points and also travel times.

Thanks

 

[Mattg]

Yeah, QF and EK taxes are pretty high.

Qatar Airways taxes are considerably lower - probably closer to $500 return per passenger for Australia-Europe. But I just had a quick look and couldn't see any availability on any of their flights between Australia and Doha around 22 June. So you'd probably have to pick up a QR flight somewhere in Asia if you were to use them.

Cathay Pacific taxes are quite reasonable, probably around $400 for this trip. Finnair, Air Berlin and Japan Airlines have even lower taxes as they don't charge any fuel surcharges.

Malaysian taxes are quite high, but still a little lower than Qantas/Emirates. British Airways is about on par with Qantas - very high.

 

[NZflygirl]

I'm trying to book 2 seats in J to get to Europe through QF and on QF/EK metal They've just quoted me circa $1500 return in taxes per person for J seats. I'd prefer not to be bent over so badly so does anyone have a rough comparison for if I can find flight all the way through on MH/QR etc?

I'm looking for BNE PRG one-way for now on the 22JUN17, but can do ex Sydney or anywhere really to get a more efficient use of points and also travel times.

Thanks

Ouch!! I was planning on using QF points on this route at some stage. Guess I'll be angling for QR also.

 

[ftm]

I noticed when doing a HKG redemption this week that the points required for CX were higher than they were for QF. Taxes lower, but points higher. I hadn't done a redemption on a partner airline for a while so hadn't realised!

 

[serfty]

Yeah, QF and EK taxes are pretty high.
...

Please don't refer to Airline imposed such as Fuel Surcharges (YQ, YR) as taxes.

The government imposed levies and charges should basically be the same for any single route - it's the YQ/YR that make some fares/redemptions significantly more costly than others.

FWIW, flying W/J/F out of LON to SYD brings with it an "Air Passenger Duty" levy of £142 for an Adult. All carriers must impose this.

Qantas consider that an additional in YQ each way on awards to be an appropriate impost.

 

[Cool Cat Phil]

I noticed when doing a HKG redemption this week that the points required for CX were higher than they were for QF. Taxes lower, but points higher. I hadn't done a redemption on a partner airline for a while so hadn't realised!

Unfortunately for partner airlines, your observation is correct. However the taxes payable EX HKG should be nice and low .

 

[Buzzard]

Friends of mine recently flew CX J ZRH-HKG-ADL and the taxes/fees were very reasonable.

 

[garybatz]

The differences in taxes/fees are quite amazing, I used AA points to book a trip this June/July going MEL-KUL-LHR, and back HAM-LHR-KUL-MEL, all in J with MH (except HAM-LHR with BA) with total cost only $270.00...

 

[Mattg]

The differences in taxes/fees are quite amazing, I used AA points to book a trip this June/July going MEL-KUL-LHR, and back HAM-LHR-KUL-MEL, all in J with MH (except HAM-LHR with BA) with total cost only $270.00...

AAdvantage miles are indeed excellent when it comes to taxes. The only airlines that you have to pay a fuel surcharge on when using AA miles are British Airways, and I think possibly also Iberia. Even on Qantas flights you don't have to pay any fuel surcharges.

 

[NZflygirl]

Please don't refer to Airline imposed such as Fuel Surcharges (YQ, YR) as taxes.

The government imposed levies and charges should basically be the same for any route - it's the YQ/YR that make some fares/redemptions significantly more costly than others.

FWIW, flying W/J/F out of LON to SYD brings with it an "Air Passenger Duty" levy of £142 for an Adult. All carriers must impose this.

Qantas consider that an additional in YQ each way on awards to be an appropriate impost.

Is that just London or would Glasgow and any other UK destination incur similar fees? ie Best to angle for somewhere close but hop another flight?

 

[RichardMEL]

Is that just London or would Glasgow and any other UK destination incur similar fees? ie Best to angle for somewhere close but hop another flight?

It is UK APD so any UK airport. I think there some odd exemptions like somewhere in Scotland, but the main places all have it. The best way around it is to book a short haul (or better yet, a surface sector/open jaw to depart from say Ireland, or CDG/AMS etc thus avoiding the APD. It's only charged on *departures* so inbound is OK