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You’re still suffering, you’re just choosing not to react to it.

When in a rowdy group, with one “old bloke” threatening to throw lemonade on them? I doubt it.

You suffer. At least it’s not as bad as if you were in Y and Karen was doing the same!

*feigns indignance* Ahem … “Flying High”!

That’s fine then, if there’s only one gear (singular) then wear on it won’t affect you!

Well, talking to them yourself is the thing you haven’t tried … short of getting assaulty, what else can you do? Try to get the cabin crew to be more assertive? Other than that, “nothing”.

I think I’d ask the Karen as politely as possible to turn it down or use headphones … but I’d expect said Karen to tell me to eff off (like the Karen in the train the other day who wanted to use the seat next to her for her handbag so said “no” to the young lady who politely asked her to move...

The current safe answer is "Truth Social", simples!

So does the Zen brand make double G&T's on tap?!

I interpreted Quickstatus' point as more "if you've asked the passenger and asked the crew and nothing has worked, THEN what do you do?". It's not right that you have to deal with the rudeness, but if nothing is going to have an effect short of you grabbing that 'phone & potentially being...

Do you have a mind-control gun to Zen other passengers into stopping their misbehaviour?! :)

Yes Estelle was always my favourite Golden Girl.

Yeah my wife had a J AC flight SYD-YUL a few years back, due to her employer’s gross incompetence she had to come back to SYD from ICN on an unlinked ticket then wait 3hrs then fly out … meaning no ability to check-in early, and meaning that when AC replaced the aircraft (due to birdstrike) with...

Ah that’s right, I’d forgotten we’d gone over parity for that brief exchangey period! :) But the current exchange rate is way more normal than $1.10 was. My understanding is that things aren’t so much expensive in the US due to just the exchange-rate now, but that prices for stuff in the US...

That would’ve been when it was pegged artificially high rather than after it was floated in the 80’s to reflect its’ actual relative value … wouldn’t it?

Googling beds in economy class aircraft the other day popped-up a pikky of what I suspect you’re talking about, from the 70’s I think? *time passes* I lie, it was 1960’s and KLM. Probably from when flying was such an expensive novelty that there wasn’t really an “economy” class & all...

I’d be mega-stoked if they drugged me in the departure lounge for 15hrs, wrapped me in shrink-wrap & shoved me onboard in a pile of drugged bodies … then I woke up in the arrivals lounge. Even if it was with a drug-induced headache & drymouth, as that’s still better than sitting in a Y seat for...

^ You might do it in a single-aisle wide-body? But the weight of the structure would be a problem IMHO, luggage/storage you’d deal-with by making each pod-person store it in their pod. The safety aspects … without legislation to restrict them, I doubt the airlines would care about that. :)

Meh, when you’re in Economy every single seat is candidate to be your toilet!

Could you pile ultra-small pod-hotel style pods atop each other to get 3 persons into the same volume as 3 Y seats?