New SQ 777-300ERs to have Suites?

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It has previously been announced that SQ is receiving deliveries of 8 new 777-300ERs during 2013 and 2014, and that these birds will feature a new hard product, the details of which have not yet been announced (as far as I know - and Google suggests the same). See Singapore Airlines flags new seats and cabins from mid 2013 | Plane Talking, and other sources.

So, this evening I was using EF to run a few searches MEL-SIN and SIN-MEL on SQ metal. And I noticed something very interesting:

SQ 218 0 MEL 01/07/13 12:05AM SIN 01/07/13 6:05AM 77W Unavailable 87% / 15m R4 F4 P4 A1 Z4 C0 J0 D0 S9 Y0 B0 E0 M0 H0 W0 Q0 N0 U0 G0 L0 K0

R class available on a 77W? What the??

Running more EF searches revealed consistent availability of R class on (77W-operated) SQ217 and SQ218 services from 01/07/2013 onwards (prior to 01/07/2013 77Ws are not used for this service - nor any of the other MEL-SIN or SIN-MEL services). Searching a bunch of other random 77W routes on a bunch of random dates later in the year didn't reveal any other 77W services offering R - which is not to say they're not out there (I only ran about 20 searches), but it does show the availability of R class on 77Ws isn't some sort of system-wide change SQ has made.

My first thought was that this was some sort of glitch, however I noticed something else strange when searching for award seats on the SQ website: whenever I ran a First/Suites search that returned one of the 77W-operated services where R class was available, the Saver level awards were listed as "Not Available" (but Standard and Full were). This clearly isn't normal for 77W services either.

Sooo... can we assume that from 01/07/2013 onwards, SQ217 and SQ218 are scheduled to be operated by brand-new 77Ws? And that the new, as-yet-unveiled hard product on these birds will include a Suites product up the pointy end? Or at least a "First" product which is sufficiently better than the current offering to justify being sold as "a class above First"? I think that, perhaps, the answer might be yes!
 
Interesting development if it comes off.

I had a look on sqtalk to see if anything there. Came up with thi thread but nothing conclusive.

New business class from Q3 2013 and no premium economy planned - Page 2 - SQTalk

Good find. I hadn't read the SMH article referenced in that thread previously. It talks about new F "seats", and how the new "seats" can be retrofitted into the A380 F cabin if SQ desire. I suspect the use of the word "seats" is purely assumption on the journalist's part though... assuming what I discovered is "real" (not a glitch or mistake or something), I just can't imagine SQ selling a product that isn't at least close to the current Suites as R.
 
Good find. I hadn't read the SMH article referenced in that thread previously. It talks about new F "seats", and how the new "seats" can be retrofitted into the A380 F cabin if SQ desire. I suspect the use of the word "seats" is purely assumption on the journalist's part though... assuming what I discovered is "real" (not a glitch or mistake or something), I just can't imagine SQ selling a product that isn't at least close to the current Suites as R.
Given it is only 3-4 months out, can't be a major change like a new seat.
 
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Given it is only 3-4 months out, can't be a major change like a new seat.

Why do you say that? Remember the new product they've announced is on brand-new planes, not a refit. And I just can't get my head around "R" if it's not something significantly better than current First - again, assuming what I found is legit, of course.
 
Why do you say that? Remember the new product they've announced is on brand-new planes, not a refit. And I just can't get my head around "R" if it's not something significantly better than current First - again, assuming what I found is legit, of course.
surely the rumour mill would know something.
 
would it be worth having a redemption waitlist on? I wonder.

I actually made a speculative booking on it for October this year (not "just because" - actually needed to get somewhere :-)), knowing I could cancel it for $50 if needed / wanted.

That said, I little birdie just told me that SQ PR was asked about this, and responded by saying there won't be suites on these services from 1 July 2013 and that the R fare bucket showing up is a GDS error that they're currently working to fix. Then again, they'd probably not want to confirm even if it wasn't a mistake, so take that as you will :-)
 
Look at the page again, the text below the pic.....

Ahh, how dumb of me.

So, this could be it. Based on a quick Google, I do note that that page first appeared on the net in Feb 2012 or prior... doesn't mean it can't be the new F product, but that is a fair while ago.
 
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