$10 increase on Passenger Movement Charge to $70 from 1 July 2024

[CaptJCool]

Leaving Australia?

Tonights Budget announced the $10 increase in the passenger movement charge from 1 July 2024 from $60 to $70 a passenger.

 

[JohnK]

As if the movement charge wasn't high already.

One of, if not, the highest taxed nations in the world.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Is an extra $10 enough to scare off the vultures preying on my SQ R/F/J rdpt inventory? I doubt it - any chance we can make it $100 increase? That should help

 

[CaptJCool]

well, i did think we might tax the golden tickets like the Heathrow tax on J and F fares but alas, we will keep hitting the Bali & NZ traveller

 

[JohnK]

Is an extra $10 enough to scare off the vultures preying on my SQ R/F/J rdpt inventory? I doubt it - any chance we can make it $100 increase? That should help

Anyone flying PE should pay going rate, J should be paying double, F should be paying triple and R should be paying quadruple.

Departure tax should be waived for those flying economy or economy minus.

 

[SydneySwan]

One of, if not, the highest taxed nations in the world.

Oh come on.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Anyone flying PE should pay going rate, J should be paying double, F should be paying triple and R should be paying quadruple.

Departure tax should be waived for those flying economy or economy minus.

No arguments from me Johnny - got Albo’s or Charlie’s numbers and we can put it to them?

 

[SCM]

Still beats the government keeping it's citizens locked up for 2 years, coughting on the UN declaration of human rights.

 

[levelnine]

Don't worry, $10 will be worth about $1 in today's money by then .

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Ah politics - I sense Mods circling

 

[Mwenenzi]

As if the movement charge wasn't high already.
One of, if not, the highest taxed nations in the world.

Oh come on.

Yes. One of the highest departure taxes in the world.
Only applies from 1 July 2024, so for new tickets, given some airlines sell tickets a year out. If had been a closer date would have had some pax paying $60 and others $70. Last change was 2017 (source wikipedia)

But I think wiikipedia does list all. IIRC France has sort of departure tax (what ever bureaucratic speak is described as)

Passenger Movement Charge - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Departure tax - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Edit
France - non govt source, so may be inaccurate

French Airport Tax (Essential Information)

French Airport Tax is charged on passengers departing on board commercial flights from an aerodrome situated on French territory.

www.fccaviation.com

French Civil Aviation Tax (Rules of Regulation)

French Air Passenger Tax is a per-passenger tax on all commercial flights departing from an airport situated on French territory

www.fccaviation.com

France govt tiered tax on class of travel

Aeronautical taxes | Ministère du Partenariat avec les territoires et de la Décentralisation Ministère de la Transition écologique, de l’Énergie, du Climat et de la Prévention des risques Ministère du Logement et de la Rénovation urbaine

In order to facilitate the management of aeronautical taxes under its jurisdiction, the French civil aviation authority (DGAC) has set up a Guichet Fiscal Unique.

www.ecologie.gouv.fr

 

[Jay M]

well, i did think we might tax the golden tickets like the Heathrow tax on J and F fares but alas, we will keep hitting the Bali & NZ traveller

Well Bali is where the FMD risk is, so that actually makes sense.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Will a $10 increase in a fee deter travel to Australia? Respectfully, I doubt it. Flights to Australia from Europe and the Americas cost several thousand dollars, this is a drop in the proverbial bucket. From Asia, okay it might make a difference if you are flying a budget airline and have a hostel booked in Sydney, but then one must ask themselves if that is much of a big "loss"?

The other question not raised is who ends up paying for the increase? There is an implicit assumption that it is the consumer and that isn't always the case for these fees. Often times it is the airlines who eat the cost of the fees by simply lowering the base fare component or fuel surcharge to keep the price the same. And in the case of other fees (i.e. UK's Air Passenger Duty, APD) whether you pay the fee depends on how you got the ticket. For instance, upgrading from economy to business or first doesn't always attract the higher APD depending on the upgrade instrument used (i.e. eUpgrade credits with Air Canada or points with United).

But I suppose the elephant in the room here isn't so much the passenger movement charge but really the growing list of ancillary fees we the travelling consumer have to pay be it security charges, customs fees, passenger movement fees, etc. Depending on the itinerary booked sometimes the line item costs will be greater in the government taxes & fees than the base fare component and fuel surcharge component. Are all of these fees justified and if not what can we as the travelling public do to tame them?

-RooFlyer88

 

[PumaPilot]

I wonder if the Politicians will have to pay? AirMiles Albo could have paid off our national dept by now and Penny Wong could have put us in surplus.

Who am I kidding, of course they won't pay, we always pay it for them.

 

[QF_Flyer]

As if the movement charge wasn't high already.

One of, if not, the highest taxed nations in the world.

It's nothing compared to UK APD.

 

[QF_Flyer]

well, i did think we might tax the golden tickets like the Heathrow tax on J and F fares but alas, we will keep hitting the Bali & NZ traveller

No such thing as Heathrow tax, it applies UK wide except NI and Highlands & Islands region of Scotland. Heathrow has slightly higher pax fees, but APD is exactly the same.

 

[PumaPilot]

Now the Federal government is putting a tax on fresh food farmers to pay for bio-security. That begs the question, why there's a $10 increase in PDT. I smell something fishy and its not fish

 

[jpp42]

That begs the question, why there's a $10 increase in PDT. I smell something fishy and its not fish

I think you need to get that sniffer checked. The PDT last increased to $60 in 2017. An increase to $70 represents approximately 3% inflation over the 6 years, and we all know inflation has been a lot more than that in the past year. So nothing fishy here.

 

[PumaPilot]

That's not my point. The government are taxing farmers to pay for bio-security but the PDT was set up to pay for that system so what do they really want ? Passengers to pay or farmers. Most pollies have never left the inner city and have NO idea where our food comes from

 

[kangarooflyer88]

That's not my point. The government are taxing farmers to pay for bio-security but the PDT was set up to pay for that system so what do they really want ? Passengers to pay or farmers. Most pollies have never left the inner city and have NO idea where our food comes from

Or maybe airlines? I mean many of these fees are often eaten up by airlines (i.e. UK's air passenger duty) which means less of a margin for them. Whether or not that is a good thing depends on what stakeholder you are.