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Hi,

I will be travelling through some large airports (for the first time) including Heathrow, JFK, O'Hare, Schiphol plus a couple of others. Apart from downloading a map of the airport can you recommend any other strategies for getting to and from and around the airports (ie from terminal to terminal). Also given the long queues how much time do you normally allow for getting around the airport, finding the correct check in etc. or when transferring between terminals. Keep thinking I am going to get lost and miss my flight:-|
 
Despite its reputation LHR is surprisingly easy to navigate. Well sign posted. Stay clear of Atlanta if possible, it's bigger than the city of Perth. JFK is also pretty straight forward.
 
Hi,

I will be travelling through some large airports (for the first time) including Heathrow, JFK, O'Hare, Schiphol plus a couple of others. Apart from downloading a map of the airport can you recommend any other strategies for getting to and from and around the airports (ie from terminal to terminal). Also given the long queues how much time do you normally allow for getting around the airport, finding the correct check in etc. or when transferring between terminals. Keep thinking I am going to get lost and miss my flight:-|

Hi Stargazer

Can I suggest not asking so many questions in one paragraph (you’ll get too much info to work thru) but break down and be a bit more specific and working on one terminal, location at a time and which airline you are using.

Your first airport is it arrival with holiday then departure, usually it’s immigration which is very straight forward and good arrival signs and for departures follow the guide lines of airline check in closing times of 30 mins or 1 hr most airlines are strict (don’t get to the airport 5 mins before closing allow a good domestic allow 1 hr and upto 3 hr for international).

So another question you can ask example staying Paddington in London need to get to LHR (Heathrow) what’s the best way and how much time is needed also state if you are on a budget Train/Bus/Shuttle or want luxury Taxi/Limo (how many travellers in your group).

If you are transiting give who you are flying with which terminal arr/dep and time between flights e.g. QF flight SYD-LHR arrival T3 connecting flight from T5 I prefer at least 2 hr between flights incase 1st flight is delayed more if the 2nd flight is on a different ticket (very easy and well signed but you still need minimum of 50 mins between flights).

Are you doing a RTW? If your are I remember the first time I did RTW with QF I only used 11 of the 16 segments, if you use all segments the more FF points and status credits. Another thing to be aware of some major city have more than one airport e.g. in London the arrival Heathrow and depart from Gatwick is classified as 1 wasted segment (Paris has CDG and OLY, NY city has JFK, LGA & EWR). So if you are on a RTW ticket try using the same airport for arr/dep.

For new destinations I Google a lot, copy and paste into word doc useful info and creating individual folders.

You don’t have to start new threads just continue asking different question in this one. Enjoy your travels
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Helen
 
To minimise the distance between terminals when making connections, make sure you are traveling on the same airline (or a alliance partner).
Have a feeling it was at JFK that is a long from the gate to luggage carousel if using AA (not sure on other airlines)
 
O'Hare is easy as well.
Well signed.
Just lots of walking depending upon which gate you come into.
Then if departing from there, again well set out. And there was enough staff to ask questions.
You will find curb side check-in. My pref is to NOT use this. I prefer to go to the check in counters in the event of a cancelled flight.

And generally, with foreign airports, provided you are not trying to make an unrealistic connection, then just follow the over head signs or if in doubt follow other pax off your flight (make sure they don't have rollers).

Happy tavels.
 
if in doubt follow other pax off your flight (make sure they don't have rollers).


Not too sure why shouldn't follow pax off flight -- if they have a suitcase with wheels (assume that's what you mean by rollers??)
 
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I concur, if you have a specific question let us know as many of us know particular airports abroad very well.

I have to say though, despite studying city maps intensively before going anywhere, to the point that I can walk around easily without a map when there, I have never really bothered studying airport maps. They are usually so well signed, even in places like Japan and China with foreign alphabets that I have never had an issue getting around. There are usually people to ask. The only exception was LAX where I did some study of getting between TBIT and T4 etc but in the end I had to ask a bunch of people how to get to terminal 4 departures anyway (upstairs).
 
Stay calm, read the signs & don't be afraid to ask questions. Remember that flights may be code share, so allow time for the flight numbers to tick over.

Don't panic as you'll most probably end up at the other end to where you want to go.

If this is a holiday, remember it's suppose to be fun and will be.....have a great time.
 
Speaking of O'hare I thought I would share this story.

Two Stories BOTH TRUE -

STORY NUMBER ONE

Many years ago, Al Capone virtually owned Chicago . Capone wasn't famous for anything heroic. He was notorious for enmeshing the windy city in everything from bootlegged booze and prostitution to murder.

Capone had a lawyer nicknamed "Easy Eddie." He was Capone's lawyer for a good reason. Eddie was very good! In fact, Eddie's skill at legal manoeuvring kept Big Al out of jail for a long time.

To show his appreciation, Capone paid him very well. Not only was the money big, but Eddie got special dividends, as well. For instance, he and his family occupied a fenced-in mansion with live-in help and all of the conveniences of the day. The estate was so large that it filled an entire Chicago City block.

Eddie lived the high life of the Chicago mob and gave little consideration to the atrocity that went on around him.

Eddie did have one soft spot, however. He had a son that he loved dearly. Eddie saw to it that his young son had clothes, cars, and a good education. Nothing was withheld. Price was no object.

And, despite his involvement with organized crime, Eddie even tried to teach him right from wrong. Eddie wanted his son to be a better man than he was.

Yet, with all his wealth and influence, there were two things he couldn't give his son; he couldn't pass on a good name or a good example.

One day, Easy Eddie reached a difficult decision. Easy Eddie wanted to rectify wrongs he had done.

He decided he would go to the authorities and tell the truth about Al "Scarface" Capone, clean up his tarnished name, and offer his son some semblance of integrity. To do this, he would have to testify against The Mob, and he knew that the cost would be great. So, he testified.

Within the year, Easy Eddie's life ended in a blaze of gunfire on a lonely Chicago Street . But in his eyes, he had given his son the greatest gift he had to offer, at the greatest price he could ever pay. Police removed from his pockets a rosary, a crucifix, a religious medallion, and a poem clipped from a magazine.

The poem read:

"The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour. Now is the only time you own.. Live, love, toil with a will. Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still."



STORY NUMBER TWO

World War II produced many heroes. One such man was Lieutenant Commander Butch O'Hare.

He was a fighter pilot assigned to the aircraft carrier Lexington in the South Pacific.

One day his entire squadron was sent on a mission. After he was airborne, he looked at his fuel gauge and realized that someone had forgotten to top off his fuel tank.

He would not have enough fuel to complete his mission and get back to his ship.

His flight leader told him to return to the carrier. Reluctantly, he dropped out of formation and headed back to the fleet.

As he was returning to the mother ship, he saw something that turned his blood cold; a squadron of Japanese aircraft was speeding its way toward the American fleet.

The American fighters were gone on a sortie, and the fleet was all but defenceless. He couldn't reach his squadron and bring them back in time to save the fleet. Nor could he warn the fleet of the approaching danger. There was only one thing to do. He must somehow divert them from the fleet.

Laying aside all thoughts of personal safety, he dove into the formation of Japanese planes. Wing-mounted 50 calibre's blazed as he charged in, attacking one surprised enemy plane and then another. Butch wove in and out of the now broken formation and fired at as many planes as possible until all his ammunition was finally spent.

Undaunted, he continued the assault. He dove at the planes, trying to clip a wing or tail in hopes of damaging as many enemy planes as possible, rendering them unfit to fly.

Finally, the exasperated Japanese squadron took off in another direction.

Deeply relieved, Butch O'Hare and his tattered fighter limped back to the carrier.

Upon arrival, he reported in and related the event surrounding his return. The film from the gun-camera mounted on his plane told the tale. It showed the extent of Butch's daring attempt to protect his fleet. He had, in fact, destroyed five enemy aircraft
This took place on February 20, 1942 , and for that action Butch became the Navy's first Ace of W.W.II, and the first Naval Aviator to win the Medal of Honour.

A year later Butch was killed in aerial combat at the age of 29. His home town would not allow the memory of this WW II hero to fade, and today, O'Hare Airport in Chicago is named in tribute to the courage of this great man.

So, the next time you find yourself at O'Hare International, give some thought to visiting Butch's memorial displaying his statue and his Medal of Honour. It's located between Terminals 1 and 2.


SO WHAT DO THESE TWO STORIES HAVE TO DO WITH EACH OTHER?


Butch O'Hare was "Easy Eddie's" son.
 
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