Airspace safety over Iraq/Syria

qreality

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Hi, just wondering if I can get some insights from aviation experts here.
I have been following flight routes of several well-known airlines, including QR, TK, EK, who still fly over Iran, and/or Iraq/Syria airspace. up until Jan 2025.
The information I got is from website like flightradar24.com

This is really concerning for, as far as I know, Iraqi/Syrian/Iranian/Israeli airspace is still considered unsafe. For example, EASA still NOT recommends aircraft to fly over Syrian airspace at any altitude, Airspace of Syria | EASA.

Yet, major airlines still flew over those regions. For example, QR149, Doha to Madrid on 8 January 2025 still flew over Iraqi and Syrian airspace

I wonder if this is because airlines decide to save cost and take a calcualted risk and still flew over those airspace?
Now, given that airlines do nto publish their flight route ahead of the time, as customers, how would you know if the flight you will be on, will fly over those airspace that you are not comfortable with?

Perhaps many AFF readers are comfortable wiht the risks and trust the airlines to make the decision, but they have been known to be wrong. The MH17 incident should have burnt an indelible mark on airlines (and by the way, SQ was not far behind MH during the incident, so airlines reputation is not really a factor here), yet here we are gambling with passengers' safety again for the sake of profit.

I wonder if customers should make more noise about this. I think most customers are just oblivious to this. If they knew, I think many would have reconsidered.

Anyway, I am a bit over the top when it come sto safety but happy to hear what others thought.
 
Yet, major airlines still flew over those regions. For example, QR149, Doha to Madrid on 8 January 2025 still flew over Iraqi and Syrian airspace

The thing that surprises me about that track is that they went over Iraq and not Iran, for little shortening of the route. Iran has traditionally been allies with Qatar - not that political allegiances determine airline ops - but they do. Then they could have turned over Türkiye and be swell.

The fact that they didn't to me indicates that their risk assessment was OK. Doesn't eliminate the risk - but I still feel fine with the main airlines judgement - they don't want their aircraft shot down anymore than I do.

I was OK with being on QR flying north over Iran to Baku, Azerbaijan even when Iran was lobbing the odd missile westwards.
 
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Yet, major airlines still flew over those regions. For example, QR149, Doha to Madrid on 8 January 2025 still flew over Iraqi and Syrian airspace

This flight did not enter Syrian airspace. Flightaware lost tracking over Turkey (where the tracking line changes from green to white) and regained it over Iraq (where the tracking line reverts to green).

Try Flightradar 24 - it shows the flight flew to the East of Silopi in Turkey, and then into Iraqi airspace.
 

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