Are Carry On Bags Out of Control ?

[bertair]

Have members noticed just how many passengers are abusing the carry on baggage limits and some airlines are ignoring this growing habit of passengers having a wheely on boarding and loading up the overheads with these cases?
On a recent Jetstar International flight, the flight out was bad enough,but returning passengers who probably had their 20kg limit with checked bags then were using their wheelys to get more on board,probably filled with their cheap shopping purchases.
So much so, I who had a small messenger bag, could not find room to stow it in the overhead.
This practice I wonder, could potentially be endangering the aircraft with so much weight in the overheads,which is most likely to be an unknown.
I have heard of a woman being hospitalized as a result of a bag falling on her head while she slept due to a fellow passenger pulling their wheely out in flight.
If it happened to me I think I would be suing the airline for negligence in allowing IATA Regulations to be ignored by the crew.
In addition,it slows down the deplaning when so many passengers are retrieving their wheelys on landing.
The regulations are in place,but while ever airlines charge for baggage,there will be those who will push the limit.
I wonder if other FF members have experienced this problem and have ideas as to it's solution; or maybe you think that there is no problem ?

 

[Cruiser Elite]

Could not agree more - totally out of control.

If you think Oz is bad - go check some flights in the states - in particular people heading into / out of Las Vegas - UFB.

 

[medhead]

I am not sure what the issue is here. You seem to have a problem with wheely bags, no mention of size or weight of the carry on bag. Other that a vague comment that putting wheely bags into the overhead locker is bad.

Or to put it another way, you seem to be suggesting that all wheely bags must be automatically over weight. I suggest that is a false assumption.

The thing I notice most is that people are totally incapable of stowing their luggage efficiently. Then they get all uppity because you rearrange their cough so that their jacket isn't occupying half of the overhead locker space.

 

[nlagalle]

Have members noticed just how many passengers are abusing the carry on baggage limits and some airlines are ignoring this growing habit of passengers having a wheely on boarding and loading up the overheads with these cases?
On a recent Jetstar International flight, the flight out was bad enough,but returning passengers who probably had their 20kg limit with checked bags then were using their wheelys to get more on board,probably filled with their cheap shopping purchases.
So much so, I who had a small messenger bag, could not find room to stow it in the overhead.
This practice I wonder, could potentially be endangering the aircraft with so much weight in the overheads,which is most likely to be an unknown.
I have heard of a woman being hospitalized as a result of a bag falling on her head while she slept due to a fellow passenger pulling their wheely out in flight.
If it happened to me I think I would be suing the airline for negligence in allowing IATA Regulations to be ignored by the crew.
In addition,it slows down the deplaning when so many passengers are retrieving their wheelys on landing.
The regulations are in place,but while ever airlines charge for baggage,there will be those who will push the limit.
I wonder if other FF members have experienced this problem and have ideas as to it's solution; or maybe you think that there is no problem ?

But there is nothing that says you can't take luggage on board. I travel with a wheely bag all the time. How do you know if they have or haven't checked in baggage, and really what does it matter? On JQ you can take a 10kg carry on bag on board regardless.

Also where are the IATA regulations? As far as I am aware, the airline sets the limits for what carry on is allowed. You only need to look at the different requirements for VA QF and JQ to see this.

 

[muppet]

I am not sure what the issue is here. You seem to have a problem with wheely bags, no mention of size or weight of the carry on bag. Other that a vague comment that putting wheely bags into the overhead locker is bad.

Or to put it another way, you seem to be suggesting that all wheely bags must be automatically over weight. I suggest that is a false assumption.

The thing I notice most is that people are totally incapable of stowing their luggage efficiently. Then they get all uppity because you rearrange their cough so that their jacket isn't occupying half of the overhead locker space.

I agree medhead, the big problem is people who put the wheely in sideways or a jacket. Plus, small handbags or backpacks can go under the seat.

I have been the problem once with my garment bag, maybe a backback could go on top but not much more ... It takes up a fair bit of room.

 

[serfty]

The airlines have rules for cabin baggage - it's the enforcment that varies.

e.g. Domestic Maximums:

• Qantas Domestic Jets services allow 2 x 105cm bags or one 115cm bag, each up to 7Kg.
• Qantas International services allow 1 x 115cm bag up to 7kg.
• Jetstar allow 1 x 115cm bag up to 10kg.
• Tiger allow 1 bag up to 7 kg and 1 bag up to 3kg.
• Virgin Australia allow 2 x 105cm bags total up to 7Kg plus a personal item(handbag/laptop).

 

[medhead]

I agree medhead, the big problem is people who put the wheely in sideways or a jacket. Plus, small handbags or backpacks can go under the seat.

I have been the problem once with my garment bag, maybe a backback could go on top but not much more ... It takes up a fair bit of room.

Sideways wheelys! I won't start on that. Best I saw was one of those leather, zip up, diary, folio things placed lengthwise in an overhead. Just sheer stupidity.

Garment bags, well those get difficult an there is no easy solution other than helping someone rearrange a bit. Obviously stuff can't go on top of a garment bag.

 

[nlagalle]

Sideways wheelys! I won't start on that. Best I saw was one of those leather, zip up, diary, folio things placed lengthwise in an overhead. Just sheer stupidity.

Garment bags, well those get difficult an there is no easy solution other than helping someone rearrange a bit. Obviously stuff can't go on top of a garment bag.

I've had that.. some people really have no idea on how to pack luggage into the bins! I have had to re-arrange it a few times myself.

 

[Daggs01]

When I fly I have either one of the following:

1x mobile office wheelie, that is right on the weight limit (2 laptops + bag) and have all my other office stuff (diary etc) in checked baggage.

Or

1x wheelie with clothes and stuff + messenger bag containing a laptop.

The amount of stuff people take, and I agree it is abused, and people put bags in sideways and that, people should stick to the basics and they will be fine.

 

[simongr]

On a 73x my wheelie is always end on (as it is the right size) but on a 763 it can't go end on which is very annoying for me and other people. I am carrying exactly what I am allowed to carry but now there is a perception that I am doing the wrong thing...

 

[rechoboam]

On a 73x my wheelie is always end on (as it is the right size) but on a 763 it can't go end on which is very annoying for me and other people. I am carrying exactly what I am allowed to carry but now there is a perception that I am doing the wrong thing...

On the a380 will a maximum size bag go end on? And the AA flight lax to Chicago in J will be Ok too? Trying to go hand luggage only.

 

[blackcat20]

When I fly internationally I take just a backpack on the way to my destination, which I put in the overhead. On the way home I use a backpack and a handbag; the backpack goes up top and the handbag under the seat in front. Admittedly I have come home with extra shopping before (which I was allowed to take on board), but it fitted on top of the backpack so I never take up anybody elses space.

 

[simongr]

On the a380 will a maximum size bag go end on? And the AA flight lax to Chicago in J will be Ok too? Trying to go hand luggage only.

Hmm - don't think it really matters in J as the length of the seats mean quite a large proportion over the overhead is above one seat only - another reason to choose 13 EF.

On the AA flight it will really depend on the aircraft.

 

[medhead]

On a 73x my wheelie is always end on (as it is the right size) but on a 763 it can't go end on which is very annoying for me and other people. I am carrying exactly what I am allowed to carry but now there is a perception that I am doing the wrong thing...

I don't fly on 767s often. But I wouldn't have that perception on the aircraft as my recollection is that there is plenty of overhead space. Much more than a 737.

 

[simongr]

I am normally in 23/24 B/J and the carryone doesnt fit in end on. The centre bins are if anything worse. If in 23 then I normally use some of the space that straddles J and whY.

 

[muppet]

On a 73x my wheelie is always end on (as it is the right size) but on a 763 it can't go end on which is very annoying for me and other people. I am carrying exactly what I am allowed to carry but now there is a perception that I am doing the wrong thing...

Yep. I agree. Nothing you can do about a small overhead bin.

However I saw the cabin crew at the boarding gate in CBR, almost laugh at this couple that both had full size bags. I dunno how they got em through the x-ray! They had to go under - lucky it was a gate check, otherwise they'd be up for excess charges i think. Haha

 

[Awesom Andy]

I would have to agree that's very much out of control these days, even though I'm usually one of the culprits - at both maximum allowed size and weight. Luckily, my young days with tetrics and lego blocks prove to be of use even in adult life.

And, on one flight, my wheelie had an op-up to J because Y was overloaded. Too bad I was not allowed to stay with my (locked) wheelie in the J cabin.

 

[ashleyn]

Common practice in the US is to collect wheelies and oversize bags at the door, store them in the hold and they get collected on arrival. Just saw this on Alaskan and Hawiaan.

 

[serfty]

Common practice in the US is to collect wheelies and oversize bags at the door, store them in the hold and they get collected on arrival. Just saw this on Alaskan and Hawiaan.

That's normal for rejoinal jets and other turbo props where standard 22" rollaboards won't fit in the OHSBs.

Gate check on a mainline Jet and you'll be heading to the carousel for collection.

 

[11sjw]

Common practice in the US is to collect wheelies and oversize bags at the door, store them in the hold and they get collected on arrival. Just saw this on Alaskan and Hawiaan.

Or airlines offer 'free' check in if the flight appears full.

For mine this scenario has worsened (US in particular) due to airlines looking at ways of maximising revenue, ie charging for checked in bags.

Simple solution is to get on early when in Y and ensure you get the space you're after.