Awful Service from VA for Platinum Members

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NotinMyworld

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In the past year, in order to maintain the Platinum status I have with V, i did all my flying with VA or VA partners in order to maintain this status, apart from one flight to Singapore, two flights to NZ and two flights to Melbourne. This year my intention was to do it all with VA and accepted my downgrade from Qantas Gold to silver this year and probably bronze next year but as I would predominantly fly VA it would not matter. That was until my flight this past weekend to NZ (Auckland) flying on Friday 20 April on D54 and returning on Monday 24/3 on DJ51. Have never found VA’s ground staff at airports to be the best (except LA), but the check in at Sydney was DISMAL. We were flying Premium, they had a “welcome” person there who had my invitation but not of my partner. Then when we got to the check in, we were forced to weigh our carry on at the Preferred check in, and we were well within our limit, but once we were on board we certainly saw many people flying economy had huge bags that weighed far more than 7kgs. My question is why were they not weighed and a premium and Platinum member is?



As always the crew were superb but the aircraft was VERY disappointing! I thought all your aircraft had been upgraded with an upgraded meal service and these were still the old economy seats with a table in between, unlike the two flights we had taken earlier this year to Brisbane and the Gold Coast. We had to select our meal off the menu, which seems every time one flies has contracted some more. There was choice of either a sandwich or wrap as a meal? When flying one expects a standard of service from an airline and there seems to be great inconsistencies with your flights as the flight coming back was on a refreshed cabin but it did not have your updated seating in it. Again, same menu for breakfast and unless you eat banana bread for breakfast, you go unfed. I do not think this is a premium service at all.



What was most disturbing on this return flight was a passenger with his family boarded and handed the crew a box of Ferro Rocher chocolates. There was one other passenger in premium who was asked to move from row 2 to row 1 (in which we were seated) and at this time he said he had a mate in seat 8A and could he be moved to sit with him. This was accommodated, something I find unpalatable as I had paid full ecomomy fares as well as upgrade points to be seated here and someone who could have been (and probably was) on a cheap economy ticket gets the same service and was afforded the same onboard privileges as what I had paid for! Then as soon as the flight had the seatbelt sign turned off the crew moved the family that had given them the chocolates into row 2 and afforded them the same privileges as well. Now I understand from time to time airlines have to upgrade passengers in the airport if they are overbooked, but I do not agree that this happens when on board otherwise why should I be paying for this and other passengers do not?



I am certainly weighing up rather just returning to Qantas after this most unpleasant experience with Virgin Australia. I wrote to the Customer Service Manager in the CEO's office and a week after writing to him with no response, I wrote to JB himself and no response! Obviously VA does not value their Platinum members!

 
Unfortunately the current VA trans-tasman offering is substandard. Much better to book the NZ product (either as a DJ codeshare if you prefer not to be able to manage your booking or directly on the NZ site if you'd like to be able to choose a seat etc).

It seems very unfortunate that VA haven't responded to your customer complaint. I wonder if the new AFF Virgin rep has arrived yet and can assist?
 
Welcome to AFF, I am having problems with the lack of service as advertised. If I read your post correctly the following happened:

1, Your carryon was weighed but on boarding it looked like others had snuck bags onboard.
2. Your experience onboard was different to the domestic J product offered by a different airline (Pacific Blue do not have the same equipment as Virgin Australia despite being part of the group - bit like QF and JQ to some extent or QF and QF link).
3. The premium cabin got some op ups from chocolate givers?

Have I read it right, if so while I agree its hardly an outstanding flight, I am finding it difficult to see where what was promised was not delivered? The trans tasman service on offer is by no means a great example of service.
 
Welcome to AFF, I am having problems with the lack of service as advertised. If I read your post correctly the following happened:

1, Your carryon was weighed but on boarding it looked like others had snuck bags onboard.
2. Your experience onboard was different to the domestic J product offered by a different airline (Pacific Blue do not have the same equipment as Virgin Australia despite being part of the group - bit like QF and JQ to some extent or QF and QF link).
3. The premium cabin got some op ups from chocolate givers?

Have I read it right, if so while I agree its hardly an outstanding flight, I am finding it difficult to see where what was promised was not delivered? The trans tasman service on offer is by no means a great example of service.


I'd have to agree, while you're clearly disappointed that it didn't meet your expectations it hardly seems reason enough to consider swapping allegiance over one less than perfect experience.

TG
 
Welcome to AFF, I am having problems with the lack of service as advertised. If I read your post correctly the following happened:


2. Your experience onboard was different to the domestic J product offered by a different airline (Pacific Blue do not have the same equipment as Virgin Australia despite being part of the group - bit like QF and JQ to some extent or QF and QF link).
But at what point are you told that it is a different airline when booking on the Virgin flight? It has the same prefix, the flight number is in the same range, the equipment (737-800) appears the same. You book it on the same website. Of course you should spot that you're being offered Premium instead of Business, but unless you frequent AFF, you just wouldn't know.

I stand by my comment. Don't fly DJ trans-tasman. That might encourage DJ to fix the mediocre product they're offering. Right now, most other airlines Y product is better than DJ's Y+ product.
 
But at what point are you told that it is a different airline when booking on the Virgin flight? t.

By the icons on the flight selection page, just like every other airline booking page, hmm why is that domestic flight red and my flight black, clicking on the flight details reveals its a 738 and also who operates it:

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While I do acknowledge that the flight was disappointing for you, there's one thing I have learned in my time on this earth and that is the only person's actions you can truly control are your own.
I think the title of this thread, based on what you said you experienced is not correct.
So using that logic, there is no way of you really telling that the other passengers' cabin luggage was overweight. Yours was within the limits and tested and okayed. That's not awful service.
You were given a choice from the menu, but the cabin crew were great. That is not awful service.
Others around you in Y class were the beneficiaries of some great luck. That is not awful service.
While I sympathise with you that your flight was not to your satisfaction, you actually did get what you paid for. Others were fortunate they got more than what they paid for. Sometimes we just have to roll with the punches and accept that sometimes things don't work out the way we want them to and that sometimes they exceed what we want them to. I hope that the next time you fly some good fortune comes your way.
But awful service? Sorry, I can't agree with you on this one.
 
By the icons on the flight selection page, just like every other airline booking page, hmm why is that domestic flight red and my flight black, clicking on the flight details reveals its a 738 and also who operates it:

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Of course, Virgin Australia and Virgin Australia NZ are different airlines, obvious right? Not!!!
 
As a DJ Platinum, I've noticed a steady down trend in the service I receive also. Maybe it's just my expectations growing as I fly longer and longer with DJ, but I certainly don't get a nice touchy feely feeling flying with DJ. Regardless, it's our policy to fly with DJ and I will continue to do so while I'm a status member... At the end of the day, nothing's going to change in my favor by having a whinge about it, because quite frankly, anything above what I'm currently getting is asking too much :P
 
As an aside, is Virgin unique in offering an international experience that is inferior to their domestic product? I think most other airlines in our neck of the woods offer a superior international experience to their domestic product - at least this is true of NZ and QF...
 
Of course, Virgin Australia and Virgin Australia NZ are different airlines, obvious right? Not!!!

Not for some, obviously (ie the color blind) ;). I am sure many passengers would not be aware of the difference, but we all know ignorance is not a defence, I am sure plenty of passengers rock up to a code share and get a rude shock, but at the end of the day its been advertised and sold as it was experienced in the service context. To answer your original question about being told when its a different airline, clearly the answer is on numerous occasions during the online booking process with DJ, now if its a TA, who knows.
 
Of course, Virgin Australia and Virgin Australia NZ are different airlines, obvious right? Not!!!

I actually agree with you greenfish.
In fact I had no idea until reading the posts on here and other threads that the DJ TT product was different ( and worse)
Fortunately I booked with NZ ;)
 
Not for some, obviously (ie the color blind) ;). I am sure many passengers would not be aware of the difference, but we all know ignorance is not a defence, I am sure plenty of passengers rock up to a code share and get a rude shock, but at the end of the day its been advertised and sold as it was experienced in the service context. To answer your original question about being told when its a different airline, clearly the answer is on numerous occasions during the online booking process with DJ, now if its a TA, who knows.

If we were talking about a crime, then you're right, ignorance is no defense. When you're selling a product that doesn't cut the mustard, you just alienate your customers when you deliver a product that is less than the customer expects.

The message here is simple. Avoid disappointment. Don't fly Virgin Australia NZ.
 
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While I do acknowledge that the flight was disappointing for you, there's one thing I have learned in my time on this earth and that is the only person's actions you can truly control are your own.
I think the title of this thread, based on what you said you experienced is not correct.
So using that logic, there is no way of you really telling that the other passengers' cabin luggage was overweight. Yours was within the limits and tested and okayed. That's not awful service.
You were given a choice from the menu, but the cabin crew were great. That is not awful service.
Others around you in Y class were the beneficiaries of some great luck. That is not awful service.
While I sympathise with you that your flight was not to your satisfaction, you actually did get what you paid for. Others were fortunate they got more than what they paid for. Sometimes we just have to roll with the punches and accept that sometimes things don't work out the way we want them to and that sometimes they exceed what we want them to. I hope that the next time you fly some good fortune comes your way.
But awful service? Sorry, I can't agree with you on this one.
very well said!!!
 
I think some perspective on your experience might help.

I think Justinf's post gives you a great perspective.

I also find it hard to believe that a Platinum Virgin flyer does not even casually realise there is a difference betweek Premium Economy and Business, and that Virgin Aust NZ is not different to Virgin Aust. Or that if you fly so much to be platinum that you dont realise that sometimes things dont go the way you plan / want.




Let's say you switch away from Virgin Australia / Virgin Australia NZ? Who do you use?

QF - but I wanted an A330with perosnal IFE like the advertising but got a 738 without personal IFE?
NZ - well, you'll be on Virgin Aus/NZ half the time anyway. And they're pretty much removing J across the ditch. And their airpoints will soon be almost worthless (unlike VA which you state you used to upgrade).

JQ - no J across the ditch
TT - dont even go there!
 
The face i'm pulling right now....

We have another one [dummy] spit wonder.

Sorry for the lack of sympathy, but i've heard less complaining from customers who have had much much worse happen to them on other airlines. Admit it - your expectations weren't met and your scratching the barrel to legitimise your feelings. Build a bridge and...
 
The face i'm pulling right now....

We have another one [dummy] spit wonder.

Sorry for the lack of sympathy, but i've heard less complaining from customers who have had much much worse happen to them on other airlines. Admit it - your expectations weren't met and your scratching the barrel to legitimise your feelings. Build a bridge and...

Absolutely, a classic vent. But what a shame DJ didn't defuse with some reaction to his complaint so he didn't feel the need to post here. This has been an area of real strength for Virgin, both in terms of social media (e.g. our local VA Rep), and reported responses on this forum. DJ, please don't drop the ball now.
 
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