BA Euroflyer

[RooFlyer]

Got an e-mail overnight saying that an upcoming LGW-DBV flight will now be operated by "BA Euroflyer", not BA, with no change in flight details.

Just found this, from December

BRITISH AIRWAYS’ SHORT-HAUL GATWICK SUBSIDIARY, BA EUROFLYER, REACHES SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE FOLLOWING RECEIPT OF AIR OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE AND OPERATING LICENCE

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mediacentre.britishairways.com

The question is- having its own Air Operator’s Certificate (AOC) and Operating Licence, will this be a OneWorld airline, or an Associate (or whatever the term is)? One would have to think the former.

 

[SYD]

Got an e-mail overnight saying that an upcoming LGW-DBV flight will now be operated by "BA Euroflyer", not BA, with no change in flight details.

Just found this, from December

BRITISH AIRWAYS’ SHORT-HAUL GATWICK SUBSIDIARY, BA EUROFLYER, REACHES SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE FOLLOWING RECEIPT OF AIR OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE AND OPERATING LICENCE

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mediacentre.britishairways.com

The question is- having its own Air Operator’s Certificate (AOC) and Operating Licence, will this be a OneWorld airline, or an Associate (or whatever the term is)? One would have to think the former.

It’s a BA “Affiliate” so still get usual OW status perks etc.

British Airways - oneworld Member Airline

British Airways is a founding member of the oneworld Alliance. Together with its affiliate airlines, BA flies to nearly 250 destinations in some 90 countries.

www.oneworld.com

 

[justinbrett]

Got an e-mail overnight saying that an upcoming LGW-DBV flight will now be operated by "BA Euroflyer", not BA, with no change in flight details.

Just found this, from December

BRITISH AIRWAYS’ SHORT-HAUL GATWICK SUBSIDIARY, BA EUROFLYER, REACHES SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE FOLLOWING RECEIPT OF AIR OPERATOR’S CERTIFICATE AND OPERATING LICENCE

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mediacentre.britishairways.com

The question is- having its own Air Operator’s Certificate (AOC) and Operating Licence, will this be a OneWorld airline, or an Associate (or whatever the term is)? One would have to think the former.

It's just like Qantas / Qantaslink / Alliance / National Jet etc.

It's all for Qantas.

Euroflyer / Cityflyer etc are all for BA.

 

[RooFlyer]

It's just like Qantas / Qantaslink / Alliance / National Jet etc.

As my thread has been comprehensively answered, can I ask - do all those Qantas airlines have their own Air Operator's certificate etc?

 

[justinbrett]

As my thread has been comprehensively answered, can I ask - do all those Qantas airlines have their own Air Operator's certificate etc?

Yep - just checked the following at Air operators

Qantas
Sunstate
Eastern Australian
National Jet
Network
Jetstar

And obviously Alliance (not a subsidiary - yet)

 

[RooFlyer]

Yep - just checked the following at Air operators

Qantas
Sunstate
Eastern Australian
National Jet
Network
Jetstar

And obviously Alliance (not a subsidiary - yet)

Thanks. I recognise all those as once separate airlines (I think....), so having their own AOC makes sort of historical sense. QantasLink is Eastern Oz, I recall.

What BA has done is to spin off part of its mainline fleet into a new wholly-owned subsidiary with its own new AOC, sort of going the opposite way from Qantas (consolidation). I don't know if having an operational subsidiary (in this case, BA's intra-Europe short haul routes ex LGW) needs its own AOC, unless you were looking to divest it sometime in the future?

 

[justinbrett]

Thanks. I recognise all those as once separate airlines (I think....), so having their own AOC makes sort of historical sense. QantasLink is Eastern Oz, I recall.

What BA has done is to spin off part of its mainline fleet into a new wholly-owned subsidiary with its own new AOC, sort of going the opposite way from Qantas (consolidation). I don't know if having an operational subsidiary (in this case, BA's intra-Europe short haul routes ex LGW) needs its own AOC, unless you were looking to divest it sometime in the future?

Qantaslink was never a single airline (Airlink was - the name for National Jet); Qantaslink was the united brand when National Jet, Eastern, Sunstate and Southern joined forces (but remained separate airlines). Southern no longer exists.

BA also had Shuttle which was the domestic airline. BA Cityflyer has been around for quite a few years which operated the small jets, mostly into LCY.

AOCs are more about aircraft types than business structure. I guess it's slightly weird that Euroflyer flies the same type as BA mainline - I'm guessing this is either a Brexit or trade union thing.