Calculating taxes on an Aadvantage redemption flight

[dalereardon]

Hi,

I have asked separately about Qantas taxes in another thread. I know the AA taxes will be far cheaper but I would need to buy more AA miles to get the same redemption.

Is there any way of calculating the taxes in advance before ringing the call centre for Sydney to Paris CDG return in business class with Malaysia?

Can't use the AA online redemption tool as Malysia doesn't show for that.

Thanks,

Dale.

 

[drron]

Well SYD-SIN-HEL-CDG in J has taxes of $107.10.

 

[dalereardon]

Thanks for that.

The flights being shown on Award Nexus are routed Syd-KL-CDG and the same route on the return journey with Malysia. Award Nexus needs a taxes tool and it would be perfect.

How do you work it out so I don't have to bother anyone in the future?


Dale.

 

[Mwenenzi]

I have asked separately about Qantas taxes in another thread. I know the AA taxes will be far cheaper but I would need to buy more AA miles to get the same redemption.

The taxes for AA and QF will be exactly the same
QF however charge YQ (fuel surcharge) and other fees as determined by airline (these are not by the government who receive taxes)

 

[drron]

Thanks for that.

The flights being shown on Award Nexus are routed Syd-KL-CDG and the same route on the return journey with Malysia. Award Nexus needs a taxes tool and it would be perfect.

How do you work it out so I don't have to bother anyone in the future?


Dale.

Just do a dummy booking on aa.com.Does have QF,BA,IB,AY,AS and HA loaded so usually you can get an idea of what the charges will be like.

 

[grussellt]

If you put your route into ITA as a multi-city itinerary and choose MH the taxes, etc (excluding YR and YQ) are $102.21.

 

[dalereardon]

Thanks for that help. Shows you how much Qantas redemptions rip you off.

Dale.

 

[grussellt]

QF certainly seems to collect some major amounts from fuel surcharges but who knows where it goes. At least one suggestion is that they "trouser it"!

 

[NM]

QF certainly seems to collect some major amounts from fuel surcharges but who knows where it goes. At least one suggestion is that they "trouser it"!

I am not aware of any suggestions to the contrary. I think you can leave out the text "At least one suggestion is that" and use a capital "T" for "they".

it is my personal view that the main reason QF retains the concept of fuel surcharges is so they can be applied to award tickets. So compared with AA, not only does a premium cabin long-haul QFF redemption require significantly more miles/points, but they collect a significant amount of cash for the ticket as well.

 

[Princess Fiona]

I have a recent example of the differences.
I booked two 35K J MileSAAvers HKG-MEL-SYD this week.
Total 70K Miles and $74.40 in taxes
Have also two QF JASA's on same day HKG-BNE-SYD
Total 120K Miles and $556.48 (4460 HKD)

 

[grussellt]

I have a recent example of the differences.
I booked two 35K J MileSAAvers HKG-MEL-SYD this week.
Total 70K Miles and $74.40 in taxes
Have also two QF JASA's on same day HKG-BNE-SYD
Total 120K Miles and $556.48 (4460 HKD)

Perhaps at the Rockpool QFFest you could ask one of my questions: When will QF introduce a decent buy miles programme comparable to AAdvantage? Alternatively I'd be happy to act as your reserve if you can't attend!

 

[Hvr]

Perhaps at the Rockpool QFFest you could ask one of my questions: When will QF introduce a decent buy miles programme comparable to AAdvantage? Alternatively I'd be happy to act as your reserve if you can't attend!

If a decent buy miles scheme was introduced then I suspect it would be the end of the ASA programme. I would much rather have ASAs than a buy mile scheme ala AA.

 

[NM]

I have a recent example of the differences.
I booked two 35K J MileSAAvers HKG-MEL-SYD this week.
Total 70K Miles and $74.40 in taxes
Have also two QF JASA's on same day HKG-BNE-SYD
Total 120K Miles and $556.48 (4460 HKD)

My recent AAdvantage Award, for two travelling business class BNE-xSIN-xKUL-MLE-xKUL-BNE, cost 180,000 AAdvantage miles and A$284.70 in "taxes". All booked over the phone without any "assisted booking fees" etc.

The same routing using QFF would have been 380,000 QFF points (2 x 96,000 Zone 7 partner awards each way plus 2 x 6000 points assisted booking fee) and over $2000 in "taxes and surcharges". The fuel surcharges $875 per person (5 x $175).

So more than double the points/miles, and more than 7 times the "extras" payment. makes QFF look pretty poor value for rewards redemptions in comparison. Note this is not just a hypothetical worst-case example. It is a real booking I made last week.