Chances of Qantas reducing fuel surcharges?

[delsbells]

I m planning a LONE4 and I have been quoted $1000 in taxes. Any chance of Qantas/One World reducing fuel surcharges in the next couple of weeks?

 

[JohnK]

In my opinion the chances of Qantas reducing fuel surcharges would be slim considering Qantas reduced fuel surcharges last month.

I would be more concerned about further increases in the OneWorld RTW products. So by purchasing now you may actually be saving money.

 

[NM]

I m planning a LONE4 and I have been quoted $1000 in taxes. Any chance of Qantas/One World reducing fuel surcharges in the next couple of weeks?

Fuel surcharges are nothing to do with OneWorld, or the individual airlines you fly with on the OneWorld Explorer. Its all imposed by the airline that issues the ticket according to their individual fuel surcharge policy and rates.

So having the ticket issued by an airline that does not impose fuel surcharges on segments operated by partner airlines (e.g. AA) will result in lower surcharges than having the ticket issued by an airline that imposes surcharges on every sector it can get away with regardless of the operating airline (e.g. QF).

 

[delsbells]

Thanks NM - I'll look at getting it ticketed via AA!

 

[v8Statesman]

Thanks NM - I'll look at getting it ticketed via AA!

Ring the village bells! We have another convert!

 

[drron]

And now there are no AA fuel charges on domestic flights.
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[serfty]

Thanks NM - I'll look at getting it ticketed via AA!

For more information, look here:

• http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...advantage/detail-using-aa-rtw-desk-12473.html

 

[lovetravellingoz]

And now there are no AA fuel charges on domestic flights.
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Interesting article you had the link too!!!

American Airlines was among the first to eliminate fuel surcharges on most domestic flights. As an example, a round-trip flight on American from Dallas/Fort Worth to Washington, DC, booked 14 days in advance, had a base fare of $680 dollars, plus a $170 fuel surcharge, for a total of $850.
The surcharge has now been removed, but the base far has now jumped to... you guessed it... $850 with no added surcharge.


So no fuel surcharge now...but you pay the same anyway!!!:evil:

 

[JohnK]

So no fuel surcharge now...but you pay the same anyway!!!:evil:

I would happily pay a little extra for the airfare if fuel surcharges were included as part of the base airfare.

Fuel surcharges were introduced as a temporary measure in 2004 and are still around today as nuisance value and added revenue to the airline for award tickets. When I look at airfares I want to see the actual airfare advertised on the first screen not the last screen after the +++ has been calculated.

 

[serfty]

New laws introduced into Federal Parliament in September were passed yesterday.

[These laws] prohibit any component pricing which leads to consumers making purchases without knowing the full price of a product.

Consumer Affairs Minister Chris Bowen says it is "fundamental'' that the total price be provided "at least as prominently'' as any component price.

"This Government believes the total the consumer will pay must be prominently stated, not just lost somewhere in the footnote ... or buried in the fine print,'' the Consumer Affairs Minister told parliament.

...

Mr Bowen says legislation introduced into parliament today will make it clear businesses must "state the total price as a single figure'' when that price is quantifiable.

The advertising of cheap airfares was the best known form of misleading component pricing, the minister said.

...

The changes will apply to print, television and radio advertisements.

 

[NM]

So no fuel surcharge now...but you pay the same anyway!!!:evil:

I have no issues with this. In fact I would like to see all airlines do this.

 

[JohnK]

New laws introduced into Federal Parliament in September were passed yesterday.

It will be interesting to see how the airlines implement the change.

The airlines can advertise an all in airfare at the start but the airfare could be broken down to base airfare and taxes and surcharges at the time of payment. This will allow them to continue charging fuel surcharges on award tickets.

 

[oz_mark]

It will be interesting to see how the airlines implement the change.

The airlines can advertise an all in airfare at the start but the airfare could be broken down to base airfare and taxes and surcharges at the time of payment. This will allow them to continue charging fuel surcharges on award tickets.

I would assume that is exactly how they will implement it, although with oil at its current prices, the fuel surcharge arguments are wearing thin.

I wonder if cars will now be advertised as the 'drive away no more to pay' price

 

[Mwenenzi]

I would assume that is exactly how they will implement it, although with oil at its current prices, the fuel surcharge arguments are wearing thin.

Except that QF have toward hedging contracts to buy a reasonable % of the jet fuel they need at higher rates than the spot market. Not now. With rising prices that worked well QF, when at the same time telling punters fuel is going up. To the financial press they said we are part protected from rising fuel prices.

 

[Flashback]

I have no issues with this. In fact I would like to see all airlines do this.

As would travel agents, wouldn't they TravelGuru?

 

[medhead]

Except that QF have toward hedging contracts to buy a reasonable % of the jet fuel they need at higher rates than the spot market. Not now. With rising prices that worked well QF, when at the same time telling punters fuel is going up. To the financial press they said we are part protected from rising fuel prices.

The little that I've read about QF fuel contracts in the last 6 to 12 months indicated that they were around about US$120 a barrel. But that QF could get out of the contract without penalty. I'm not sure how this works, but that is what was reported. Based on that I'd assume QF are now paying the spot price for fuel.

 

[dajop]

I would assume that is exactly how they will implement it, although with oil at its current prices, the fuel surcharge arguments are wearing thin.

Well interestingly, despite the falling oil prices (in both USD & AUD terms), fuel surcharges at the moment for many international carriers have never been higher in AUD terms, due to the fact that the surcharges are usually denominated in USD. I was shocked to find that on a recent "redemption" MEL-SIN-HKG return on SQ the "surcharges" where about $560AUD, $50 more than the week before.

The airlines are all taking us for a ride and hope for some karma. Good on DJ though for reducing their fuel fines. Let's hope there's more to come.

 

[JohnK]

I was shocked to find that on a recent "redemption" MEL-SIN-HKG return on SQ the "surcharges" where about $560AUD, $50 more than the week before.

Totally ridiculous. The surcharges are almost 50% of the WHY return airfare.

The airlines are all taking us for a ride and hope for some karma.

And they are still getting away with it.

 

[dajop]

Totally ridiculous. The surcharges are almost 50% of the WHY return airfare.

And they are still getting away with it.

Apparently JAL is worse, anecdotally I've heard that their surcharges total around $2000 to get from AUS-Europe and back.

QF aren't a lot better. Just tried reissuing the last leg of my DONE4 with one additional domestic sector. In addition to oneworld change & QF service fees they want another $180 in fuel fines for a ticket that was only issued a few weeks ago (that would be $40 for the new domestic sector plus another $140 for the recalculation of fuel fines for flights I've already taken :evil: ). This at a time when oil price is less than half of what it was not too long ago.......

 

[JohnK]

QF aren't a lot better. Just tried reissuing the last leg of my DONE4 with one additional domestic sector. In addition to oneworld change & QF service fees they want another $180 in fuel fines for a ticket that was only issued a few weeks ago (that would be $40 for the new domestic sector plus another $140 for the recalculation of fuel fines for flights I've already taken :evil: ). This at a time when oil price is less than half of what it was not too long ago.......

How can the fuel surcharges be more expensive when QF recently reduced the fuel surcharges for domestic and international flights?