Darwin Qantas Pub

[bladeau1981]

So I'll be leaving Darwin on the 1AMis flight on Wednesday morning, Qantas Club page says it is open from 1hr before first flight until the last flight of the day. Would this count as the first flight of Wednesday so open at midnight, or as last flight of day so will be open earlier?

 

[justinbrett]

So I'll be leaving Darwin on the 1AMis flight on Wednesday morning, Qantas Club page says it is open from 1hr before first flight until the last flight of the day. Would this count as the first flight of Wednesday so open at midnight, or as last flight of day so will be open earlier?

The wording is actually:
Lounge operating hours are one hour before each Qantas operated service until last Qantas departure.

When I flew out a few months ago there is a TV on the door with the opening times - usually three clusters, a morning period, a lunch/afternoon period and a late night period. If yours is the first flight of the cluster, then it will be open an hour before.

 

[bladeau1981]

The wording is actually:
Lounge operating hours are one hour before each Qantas operated service until last Qantas departure.

When I flew out a few months ago there is a TV on the door with the opening times - usually three clusters, a morning period, a lunch/afternoon period and a late night period. If yours is the first flight of the cluster, then it will be open an hour before.

Ah yeah makes sense I suppose. Now how to work out when flights depart Darwin?

 

[tdimdad]

Sorry, can't help with Darwin but this reminded of how JAL shows their opening hours. Quite unorthodox but in it's own way very clear (in this case, until 0125 / 01:25am).

 

[encryptededdy]

Sorry, can't help with Darwin but this reminded of how JAL shows their opening hours. Quite unorthodox but in it's own way very clear (in this case, until 0125 / 01:25am).

Yeah, it's a Japanese thing and it's pretty interesting: Date and time notation in Japan - Wikipedia

Times past midnight can also be counted past the 24 hour mark, usually when the associated activity spans across midnight. For example, bars or clubs may advertise as being open until "30時" (i.e. 6 am). This is partly to avoid any ambiguity (6 am versus 6 pm), partly because the closing time is considered part of the previous business day, and perhaps also due to cultural perceptions that the hours of darkness are counted as part of the previous day, rather than dividing the night between one day and the next. Television stations will also frequently use this notation in their late-night scheduling. This 30-hour clock form is rarely used in conversation.

 

[bladeau1981]

I found the Darwin Airport departures list, only until Sunday for now but looks like QF to Melbourne at 1:15am (which is the flight I am on) is the first after around 6pm so I guess I will stay in the city at a pub until around midnight.

 

[Franky]

I found the Darwin Airport departures list, only until Sunday for now but looks like QF to Melbourne at 1:15am (which is the flight I am on) is the first after around 6pm so I guess I will stay in the city at a pub until around midnight.

Wow a time of 2525?? - that's hard to get my head around. Having done a long time in the Navy, when midnight rolled around, it was 2359, and then clicked over to 0001. No such time as 2400 either...

 

[tdimdad]

Wow a time of 2525?? - that's hard to get my head around. Having done a long time in the Navy, when midnight rolled around, it was 2359, and then clicked over to 0001. No such time as 2400 either...

What happened to 0000???
Having grown up in a country with 24h clock, that's where each day always started. This '12 am' business sounds still so weird even after practicing it for quite some time...

 

[Franky]

What happened to 0000???
Having grown up in a country with 24h clock, that's where each day always started. This '12 am' business sounds still so weird even after practicing it for quite some time...

In the military at least, 0000 was as much a no-no as was 2400. Not sure if things have changed since UTC was introduced, but with 26 letters in the alphabet, and only 24 time zones, the 2 spare letters were L as the designated symbol for Local time, and Z for GMT. Signals and Messages were sent with a Date Time Group (DTG), so for a signal emanating from WA today right now, the DTG would be 05081323H, with H being the WA time zone relative to GMT. If a message was asking for something to happen at the same time in different time zones (let's say 1100 on Remembrance Day) you would nominate the time as 1100L for Local. Of course, daylight saving in various parts of the world just adds to the confusion.

 

[DC3]

What happened to 0000???
Having grown up in a country with 24h clock, that's where each day always started. This '12 am' business sounds still so weird even after practicing it for quite some time...

12 midday or 12 midnight sounds a bit easier.

 

[DC3]

… L as the designated symbol for Local time … If a message was asking for something to happen at the same time in different time zones (let's say 1100 on Remembrance Day) you would nominate the time as 1100L for Local. Of course, daylight saving in various parts of the world just adds to the confusion.

Although, L (Lima) is the time zone for a few places: including Port Vila, Solomon Islands, and Norfolk Island (GMT + 11)

 

[tdimdad]

And her I just learnt something new. Thanks, Franky!
Who would have thought it comes in a thread about Darwin Q Pub?

 

[NamarrgonFlyer]

The Darwin QF pub should be open from around 11-1115pm.

 

[1022]

Wow! Luxury. Real plates in Darwin!! It’s been months now that the Sydney QP has been all class with paper plates and plastic cups.

 

[dylarr]

Wow! Luxury. Real plates in Darwin!! It’s been months now that the Sydney QP has been all class with paper plates and plastic cups.

It was the same in the SYD J lounge with plastic cups etc but they've gone back to normal now. Think the issue was due to a broken down dishwasher that needed parts from overseas.

The Darwin QP is one of my favourite QP's around. Plenty of space and decent food options.

 

[pangwen]

Apologies for reviving this thread, but just a clarification regarding the below:

The wording is actually:
Lounge operating hours are one hour before each Qantas operated service until last Qantas departure.

I'm booked onto QF1919 in a couple of weeks. While it is QF-coded, it has the note:

Flight QF1919 is operated by Alliance Airlines

Does that mean the lounge won't be open? The other flights leaving around that time are also operated by Alliance (or Air North, or Jetstar). I was thinking maybe it's different in this case because the Alliance operation is a wet lease AFAIK, but the wording on the web page doesn't provide much leeway.

 

[justinbrett]

Apologies for reviving this thread, but just a clarification regarding the below:


I'm booked onto QF1919 in a couple of weeks. While it is QF-coded, it has the note:



Does that mean the lounge won't be open? The other flights leaving around that time are also operated by Alliance (or Air North, or Jetstar). I was thinking maybe it's different in this case because the Alliance operation is a wet lease AFAIK, but the wording on the web page doesn't provide much leeway.

Qantas operated includes all the Qantaslink operators, which Alliance is one.

It basically means no codeshares or Jetstar.

 

[Vic]

Although, L (Lima) is the time zone for a few places: including Port Vila, Solomon Islands, and Norfolk Island (GMT + 11)

Exactly, Lima is definitely assigned to a time zone.

In the military at least, 0000 was as much a no-no as was 2400. Not sure if things have changed since UTC was introduced, but with 26 letters in the alphabet, and only 24 time zones, the 2 spare letters were L as the designated symbol for Local time, and Z for GMT. Signals and Messages were sent with a Date Time Group (DTG), so for a signal emanating from WA today right now, the DTG would be 05081323H, with H being the WA time zone relative to GMT. If a message was asking for something to happen at the same time in different time zones (let's say 1100 on Remembrance Day) you would nominate the time as 1100L for Local. Of course, daylight saving in various parts of the world just adds to the confusion.

Not in my military training. Lima definitely a timezone. Never heard of this local thing. It appears that Juliet is the one missing with the following advice:

The letter "J" ("Juliet"), originally skipped, may be used to indicate the observer's local time.[2]

There are 25 time zones. Zulu time is always Zulu, and Zulu + 1 to 12 and Zulu - 1 to 12. Making 25 zones, which I can't really explain how that works (something to do with Zulu being 0)

Military time zone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Franky]

Exactly, Lima is definitely assigned to a time zone.



Not in my military training. Lima definitely a timezone. Never heard of this local thing. It appears that Juliet is the one missing with the following advice:



There are 25 time zones. Zulu time is always Zulu, and Zulu + 1 to 12 and Zulu - 1 to 12. Making 25 zones, which I can't really explain how that works (something to do with Zulu being 0)

Military time zone - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There are (or were) actually 26 time zones - L for Lima meant Local, and indicated the time zone in which you are actually located. For example, I am in Perth and my actual time right now is 2044, and as we don't need daylight saving, GMT is 1246. Prior to the time zones changing to UTC, Perth was in Time Zone Hotel (GMT+8). As an example of this, if we in the Australian Defence Forces located around the world wanted to commemorate Armistice Day at 1100 on the 11th of November, the message would go out to say you will honour the occasion at 1100L in your area. In my time in the Navy, East Coast time zone was Juliet. Every message we ever got from Navy Office had a Date Time Group ending with a J. God knows what has happened to that...

 

[Franky]

Well, I'm saying that's just wrong. My Australian Defence Force experience says Lima was a time zone, NOT this local thing. My Australian army experience East coast is Kilo time - exactly as per the link to wikipedia. Pretty sure Lima time was east coast daylight time, while Queensland stayed on Kilo time. That was 30 years ago.
Sorry, what you're saying does not match my experience.

I honestly cannot think of any circumstance where you'd need to clarify that the armistice is recognised at 11 local time.

I can only say that what you're saying does not match my experience. I served from 1961 - 1984. As I stated, since the change to UTC, things may have changed. I've never understood why they would change GMT to UTC in any event.