Difference in Economy Classic Reward pricing

[FishFood]

This is probably a basic question, but hopefully I'll receive a quick answer. Does anyone know why the same PER-SYD-CBR routing will appear for both 18,000 and 26,000 points? I've included a screenshot for reference:

 

[Captain Halliday]

This is probably a basic question, but hopefully I'll receive a quick answer. Does anyone know why the same PER-SYD-CBR routing will appear for both 18,000 and 26,000 points? I've included a screenshot for reference:

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The 26k version is pricing the sectors individually.

This happens when the second sector commences on a different calendar day, as in your example.

 

[Hvr]

Maybe there are more seats free on the overnight flight? It is a much less desirable flight than the afternoon flight.

Edit: @Captain Halliday 's response is probably better than mine.

 

[defurax]

The overnight connection prices it at 2 separate awards 18k + 8k

 

[FishFood]

The 26k version is pricing the sectors individually.

This happens when the second sector commences on a different calendar day, as in your example.

Pity I didn't work this out myself, but I suspected there would be a simple explanation. I wonder why they price them individually when it is booked as a connecting ticket? I assume they don't do this for cash tickets

 

[defurax]

Domestic cash fare you are allowed 12 hour overnight connection before it can affect the price. Not sure what's the reasoning for reward flights.

 

[astrosly]

The overnight connection prices it at 2 separate awards 18k + 8k

This. It also explains the difference in taxes where the first assumes transit at SYD but second is a stopover and factors in an extra security screening.

 

[serfty]

Does anyone know why the same PER-SYD-CBR routing will appear for both 18,000 and 26,000 points?

This happens when the second sector commences on a different calendar day, as in your example.

To be clear, this generally is for domestic travel.

For international travel, in general you have 24 hours for a "Transit". i.e. MEL-SYD and SYD-SIN will price as one award if the SIN flight is scheduled to depart no later than 24 hours after the MEL flight is scheduled to arrive.

 

[SYD]

To be clear, this generally is for domestic travel.

For international travel, in general you have 24 hours for a "Transit". i.e. MEL-SYD and SYD-SIN will price as one award if the SIN flight is scheduled to depart no later than 24 hours after the MEL flight is scheduled to arrive.

Which you can use to your advantage on the way home from @serfty ‘s example eg two “day“ flights SIN-PER/overnight stay/PER-MEL (or SYD) thus avoiding a red eye in whY.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Which you can use to your advantage on the way home from @serfty ‘s example eg two “day“ flights SIN-PER/overnight stay/PER-MEL (or SYD) thus avoiding a red eye in whY.

Well… most likely not on an award ticket at least In a couple of other threads there’s discussion on how QF is actively blocking domestic connections on international inbound flights. The only connections you’ll be able to get are to the smaller capital cities, or those offered at the time of booking. Anything else like an overnight in PER, or a day in SYD won’t be allowed At least for those under platinum status.

 

[SYD]

Well… most likely not on an award ticket at least In a couple of other threads there’s discussion on how QF is actively blocking domestic connections on international inbound flights. The only connections you’ll be able to get are to the smaller capital cities, or those offered at the time of booking. Anything else like an overnight in PER, or a day in SYD won’t be allowed At least for those under platinum status.

I just did it a couple of weeks ago. In fact, I could have done SYD-MEL/overnight/MEL-PER-SIN. It was tempting for the additional SCs as PC but a seat on QF81 nonstop appeared and I grabbed that (plus SIN-PER-SYD home). Only downside was PER-SYD ended up being a 738.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I just did it a couple of weeks ago. In fact, I could have done SYD-MEL/overnight/MEL-PER-SIN. It was tempting for the additional SCs as PC but a seat on QF81 nonstop appeared and I grabbed that (plus SIN-PER-SYD home). Only downside was PER-SYD ended up being a 738.

Booked online as an award? There’s a major issue for most of us with trying to do that at the moment

 

[SYD]

Booked online as an award? There’s a major issue for most of us with trying to do that at the moment

Yes (Just regular searches - not even forced multi city).

When I was looking, there weren’t any direct flights. All I could see were options via somewhere (plus a shed load of combos with J* ex-MEL!). Then a SYD-SIN appeared and I grabbed that plus the return via PER option (there were a lot of PER days wide open also).

I did recently try and replicate this but there’s now more direct availability. But I was able to get the multi-city to give some options. Although, I think I’ve seen some threads on MC not behaving at the moment?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yes (Just regular searches - not even forced multi city).

When I was looking, there weren’t any direct flights. All I could see were options via somewhere (plus a shed load of combos with J* ex-MEL!). Then a SYD-SIN appeared and a grabbed that plus the return via PER option (there were a lot of PER days wide open also).

I did recently try and replicate this but there’s now more direct availability. But I was able to get the multi-city to give some options. Although, I think I’ve seen some threads on MC not behaving at the moment?

The issue is that the multi-city tool shows the domestic connections, but errors out at the payment page. The call centre also can’t add domestic connectors onto international flights (to places with international service, canberra and hobart etc should be ok).

There is currently no workaround to this, unless you can get to hobart or auckland. All other o/s call centres tell you ‘no availability’ when you try to add a sector: "No award flights available" - Really???

And there is another similar thread taking about the same issue from a couple weeks back.

 

[SYD]

i see what you mean. I’m able to construct this but get the error clicking through to payment. Normally at that point, you’d at least have a placeholder PNR that you could call up () and pay for….

 

[MEL_Traveller]

i see what you mean. I’m able to construct this but get the error clicking through to payment. Normally at that point, you’d at least have a placeholder PNR that you could call up () and pay for….

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Exactly! As I mentioned in the other thread, if the call centre books the international legs they will see no availability on the PER-SYD, and if you get them to book the PER-SYD first, they then cannot see any availability for the international legs.

The system is blocking connections so pax cannot circumvent inventory controls on international sectors.

Some platinums are reporting success if they call hobart or auckland. But it’s simply not possible through other centres. I suspect, but haven’t tested, that canberra and hobart plus regional centres would not be blocked.

 

[SYD]

There are non MC options bookable (doing a simple search), so it’s not a fundamental QFi->QFd award thing. I was able to get through to the payment page on this one…

 

[MEL_Traveller]

There are non MC options bookable (doing a simple search), so it’s not a fundamental QFi->QFd award thing. I was able to get through to the payment page on this one…

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Yeah… the qualification outlined in the other thread is that you can only take what qantas wants to give you.

If they offer a connection that’s fine, but you’ll never be able to add one that you want.

So in my case I was flying out of SYD to SIN, but nothing was available back to SYD. MEL was available, but the system won’t let you add the MEL-SYD, despite every single flight that day having award availability.