Fees when booking Flights

[Austashes]

I am travelling next year using One World FF points. Is there anywhere I can get details on airport charges for different locations? Thanks.

 

[DeKa]

Re: Airport Fees

I am travelling next year using One World FF points. Is there anywhere I can get details on airport charges for different locations? Thanks.

Mock up your intended itinerary on Matrix - ITA Software
Once you get to the end of the process you can view the taxes.

 

[Austashes]

Re: Airport Fees

Thankyou - very interesting software, it has revealed even more options than I thought & details all costs thanks.

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[DeKa]

Re: Airport Fees

QF YQ is the fuel surcharge.

 

[Austashes]

Re: Airport Fees

Program can save you money - surprising the variation with airline fuel fees and different land options.

 

[JohnK]

Re: Airport Fees

I am travelling next year using One World FF points.

Which particular carrier?

If using QFF points then taxes and fuel surcharges will be high. If using AA miles then taxes and fuel surcharges will be low. I think CX miles also has high taxes and fuel surcharges.

 

[Austashes]

Re: Airport Fees

Using one world a round the world, so I have to use multiple carriers. Actually the planning is just as good as the trip.

 

[JohnK]

Re: Airport Fees

Using one world a round the world, so I have to use multiple carriers.

I don't think you understood my question. Using multiple carriers is irrelevant.

The Oneworld award (using QFF points or AA miles) or Oneworld Round the world airfare will need to be booked through the one airline and I am assuming you will book it through QF or AA. If booking via QF the taxes and surcharges will be high where as if booking with AA the taxes and surcharges will be low.

Actually the planning is just as good as the trip.

Yes the planning is just as good....

 

[Austashes]

Re: Airport Fees

John,

Ah yes I understand. I had intended to book via QF. I gather that I will be able to book via AA, I will look into it. Do you know if I will have to call AA or if I can do this via the web - I have QF frequent flyer points.

thanks for assistance,

Paul.

 

[NM]

If using QF FF points to book a OneWorld Award, it must be ticketed by QF so you have to pay the QF extortion rates for their fuel fines. You cannot have it issued by AA. Ghat is only an option if purchasing a OneWorld Explorer type of fare.

 

[Austashes]

All I have had a look at different airlines and fuel charges. Replies have stated that QANTAS charges are greater than average. I have had a look at charges and I am surprised at the variances. Charges for services and movement charges are all the same, fuel charge charges (YQ) differ. Excluding actual airfare and common charges -

I looked at part of my travel Brisbane (BNE) to Shanghai (PVG)

• QANTAS: Total: $173.50 - CZ YR $23.50 + QF YQ $150.00 (1 x stop HGK)
• CATHAY PACIFIC: $161.20 (Direct)
• SINGAPORE: $255 - SY YQ $244.00 + SY YQ $10.00 (1 x stop SIN)

My other QANTAS LEG Johannesburg JNB to BNE - YQ Chareges

• QANTAS: $205.00 (via Perth)
• CATHAY PACIFIC: $267.20 (via HKG)
• SOUTH AFRICAN: $150.00 (via SYD)

I want to fly the cheapest way, even though I am using points, but it seams that we may have the wrong view on QF charges. Understanding the difference between any connections, am I missing something or are QF charges just more visible to us?

 

[Mwenenzi]

I want to fly the cheapest way, even though I am using points, but it seams that we may have the wrong view on QF charges...

as this post above

If using QF FF points to book a OneWorld Award, it must be ticketed by QF so you have to pay the QF extortion rates for their fuel fines. You cannot have it issued by AA. That is only an option if purchasing a OneWorld Explorer type of fare.

 

[Austashes]

Actually I am going to use points via One World points for an around the world ticket - thus other airlines are an option. And yes my example used non one world airlines but I was examining the claim that QF fuel charges are "extortion" - compared to other one world and non one world airlines thsi is not the case. I can olny imagine that the very existance of a fuel charge is the real issue - and that is a very different matter!

 

[NM]

Actually I am going to use points via One World points for an around the world ticket - thus other airlines are an option.

There is not such thing as "OneWorld Points". You are a member of a particular airline's FF program and the points are in that program and can only be redeemed through that FF program, even is the flights will be operated by a partner airline. So if your points are Qantas FF points then its Qantas that will be issuing the ticket and you will be charged their fees. You have no choice, even if the flights are operated by other OneWorld partner airlines.

And yes my example used non one world airlines but I was examining the claim that QF fuel charges are "extortion" - compared to other one world and non one world airlines thsi is not the case. I can olny imagine that the very existance of a fuel charge is the real issue - and that is a very different matter!

It all depends on the flights you book and how its booked. For example, if you had AA miles to book an AA OneWorld Award, you don't pay any fuel surcharges on most flights, but would on BA flights, so selecting the right flights can avoid the fuel fines. But book using QF FF points and QF will charge you fuel fines on most sectors, except domesic USA and AU flights and a few other exceptions. Understanding how each auirline calculates the fuel surcharges and manipulating the itinerary to suit can save a lot of money. But as you are using QF FF points you really don't have any choice but to pay QF's charges and their carges are based on the routing and not the operating airlines.

 

[JohnK]

Re: Airport Fees

Ah yes I understand. I had intended to book via QF. I gather that I will be able to book via AA, I will look into it. Do you know if I will have to call AA or if I can do this via the web - I have QF frequent flyer points.

If you only have QFF points then you can only book the Oneworld award via QFF.

It will cost 143,500 QFF points (140,000 QFF points if you can book online or get QF to waive the assisted booking fee) allow up to 35,000 miles, 16 segments and 5 stopovers. On a fairly basic itinerary taxes and surcharges are likely to be >AUD1,000 per booking.

 

[Austashes]

Thanks everyone, when booking I will try and use AA where available and note any fuel charges be assigned by other airlines and if Qantas try to hit me for more I will ask why and see what happens. I will let everyone know the result next month.

 

[serfty]

Thanks everyone, when booking I will try and use AA where available and note any fuel charges be assigned by other airlines and if Qantas try to hit me for more I will ask why and see what happens. I will let everyone know the result next month.

Please do come back and relate ...

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