ID for JQi Domestic Flight

[jsd]

Hi Everybody,


Seems like a bit of a n00b question, but I'm looking at doing a International J lounge run at the end of my CNS status run next year (Thats right, I said J lounge, I'm not quite F lounge material ... yet :mrgreen: )

I'm just wondering what ID I will need to satisfy Customs or whoever checks documents going into the international terminal (Departing from SYD)?

I'll probably have a School ID and a Leaner Driver license by that time (I hope ) would that cut it or do I need something else (I don't have a passport).

Any advice or pointers on where I can find out what I'll need would be great.


Cheers,

Josh

 

[anat0l]

I think photo ID is the go, however for peace of mind your Learner's Driver Licence is probably the best bet.

I guess by rights school student ID should be fine; never tried, however.

A passport would be better but seeing as you don't have one... (why? Aren't you going to NZ soon?)

 

[Hvr]

At the airport - Travel information - Jetstar Airways

Straight from the Jet* site:

Domestic flights within Australia departing from the International Terminal

If you are travelling domestically and departing from an international terminal, and are 18 years of age or over, you will need to produce photographic identification as below that includes your full name. Your boarding pass will have a special 'D' (Domestic) sticker. You will need to sign your name in the space provided and may also be required to record details of your photographic identification.
You must retain your boarding pass as you will need to present it at immigration and customs clearance points at the end of your journey. This is required to comply with the Migration regulations administered by the Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs (DIMA).
The following are the only acceptable forms of photographic identification, all of which must be valid at the time of travel:

• National passport; or
• A motor vehicle driver's licence issued under a law of the Commonwealth of Australia, or of an Australian State or Territory; or
• A document that identifies you issued by:
• the Commonwealth of Australia, or
• an Australian State or Territory, or
• by an authority of the Commonwealth of Australia, or an Australian State or Territory; or
• An aviation security identification card issued by the operator of the aircraft or the operator of an airport in Australia

Children and infants are subject to the same identification requirements as adults, where they have an approved form of photographic identification. Exceptions from the photographic identification requirements are given for children and infants travelling with an adult. If the child is travelling with a parent or guardian their name must be recorded on the back of their parent or guardian's boarding pass and non-photographic identification as stated above for domestic flights must be made available.

Don't think the school ID will pass muster.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Hi Everybody,

Seems like a bit of a n00b question, but I'm looking at doing a International J lounge run at the end of my CNS status run next year (Thats right, I said J lounge, I'm not quite F lounge material ... yet :mrgreen: )

I'm just wondering what ID I will need to satisfy Customs or whoever checks documents going into the international terminal (Departing from SYD)?

I'll probably have a School ID and a Leaner Driver license by that time (I hope ) would that cut it or do I need something else (I don't have a passport).

Any advice or pointers on where I can find out what I'll need would be great.


Cheers,

Josh

What sector are you doing internationally within Oz Josh?

I would speak to Immigration at the city you would be flying out of as they are the people who ultimately say yay or nay as to whether the ID is suitable or not. Even though it's Customs who stamp your domestic boarding pass they need to refer to Immigration for approval if you don't have the standard photo ID.

It can be hit and miss sometimes as you might have someone with an expired drivers licence or passport but it was very much a case of which Immigration official was on duty that day as to what would pass as ok. If they had a 'take no prisoners' type attitude an expired driver's licence wouldn't cut it.

I seem to remember that if there was a young passenger under 18 years of age or even an unaccompanied minor travelling on the domestic sector of an international flight that they were allowed to not have photo ID provided they were escorted through immigration by an airline staff member.

Can the Tasmanian Registry of Births Deaths & Marriages (or BDM in whatever state you were born in) issue you with a birth certificate that is in the form of a photo ID card? Not all States have this facility.

I guess getting an 18 plus card from the appropriate State or Territory motor vehichle registry is still a tad premature at this stage?

 

[jsd]

what sector are you doing internationally within oz josh?

jq35 syd-mel

 

[thewinchester]

As Hvr pointed out, the text from the JQ site is bang on. Unless it's a Government issued photographic ID, it won't pass muster.

However, I do note the following piece of information on the QF Agent's site. I do not know what JQ's policies are in this regard, so best to check via the call centre.

Sections not relevant to your situation snipped:

Children and Infants
Children and infants are subject to the same identification requirements as adults.

For domestic travel departing from an international terminal (flights QF001-QF399):

• If the child is between 12 and 18 years of age and is travelling unaccompanied they will be escorted through the airport if they do not carry an accepted form of photographic identification.

To save any confusion or delays at the airport, ensure your client has the appropriate identification for all members of their travelling party.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

As Hvr pointed out, the text from the JQ site is bang on. Unless it's a Government issued photographic ID, it won't pass muster.

However, I do note the following piece of information on the QF Agent's site. I do not know what JQ's policies are in this regard, so best to check via the call centre.

Sections not relevant to your situation snipped:


Children and Infants
Children and infants are subject to the same identification requirements as adults.

For domestic travel departing from an international terminal (flights QF001-QF399):

• If the child is between 12 and 18 years of age and is travelling unaccompanied they will be escorted through the airport if they do not carry an accepted form of photographic identification.

To save any confusion or delays at the airport, ensure your client has the appropriate identification for all members of their travelling party.

Personally I would not waste my money calling JQ as it's not a matter of what a particular airlines' policy is or what they interpret Immigration rules to be, but what the immigration policy is.

Suppose you call JQ & they tell you one thing then immigration knock it back, do you think saying "but Jetstar told me....." is going to change their mind?

Josh if it's not a rude question, will you be 18 at the time of travel or not?

 

[samh004]

Josh if it's not a rude question, will you be 18 at the time of travel or not?

No he wont, he will be 16 though. Age is in his profile, as far as I can see, publicly displayed.

 

[notzac]

Use the learner driver license, or if you can't get that for whatever reason - get a passport.
Per ozbeachbabe, airline policy might get you past check in with something like a School ID, but that won't get you past the Customs desks...

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Use the learner driver license, or if you can't get that for whatever reason - get a passport.

+1

Sooner or later you'll need one. If your doing status/lounge runs at this age, l can imagine that it won't be far off before you'll be doing AA Y/K 'up or CX runs

 

[ozbeachbabe]

+1
Sooner or later you'll need one. If your doing status/lounge runs at this age, l can imagine that it won't be far off before you'll be doing AA Y/K 'up or CX runs

As you're still under 18 & don't have to have a drivers licence or passport, if you only have a school ID you would need a JQ person to escort you through customs & playing devil's advocate for a minute, what if JQ are too busy and can't spare anybody until after checkin has finished?

End result is that you miss out on precious time in the lounge which was kind of the purpose of your trip!

Whereas if you have your photo licence or passport, you can just check in & get your boarding pass with a minimum of fuss then proceed directly through Customs to the lounge without having to rely on someone else.

 

[samh004]

From the looks of things you can get a child’s passport which has a 5 year validity, meaning you only need to renew it (apply for an adult passport) when you hit 21. This would seem to be the easiest, and if you need to apply for anything else in the future, a passport is a good form of ID

 

[Timba-Jet]

16 and already hooked to flying, SC, lounges etc . I only got into this at 29.

I flew JQ35 SYD T1 - MEL last Sat, to enjoy the Int J louge, was hoping to get guested in F, but oh well another time.

Enjoy!

 

[jsd]

Josh if it's not a rude question, will you be 18 at the time of travel or not?

Don't be silly, thats not a rude question at all.


I'm thinking about giving Immigration/Customs in SYD a call tomorrow, if a L drivers license is in-fact ok, then I've saved myself $100 odd dollars for a child passport which I will eventually have to get anyway.

If not then I'll just fork out and get a passport, solves all problems :mrgreen:


Josh

 

[anat0l]

Don't be silly, thats not a rude question at all.

It can be if you ask a woman, particularly one whose age is greater than 21

If not then I'll just fork out and get a passport, solves all problems :mrgreen:

I'd say...just get the damn passport already

 

[jsd]

It can be if you ask a woman, particularly one whose age is greater than 21

Be Careful

I'd say...just get the damn passport already

Agreed .... Maybe

 

[medhead]

I've done domestic international legs a few times just by using a drivers licence. A learners permit is simply a drivers licence with conditions. It meets the requirement of being a government issued photo id. So in terms of identifying you it should be fine. I wouldn't waste time getting a passport if you don't have to get it. For a start there is generally a requirement to have 6 months validity on your passport to enter a country. I lost about 1 year off my last passport because of having a 3 week trip about 5.5 month before my passport expired. So if you don't know when you are going to travel internationally it is better to delay getting a passport as long as possible

Don't be silly, thats not a rude question at all.

Josh

You say that now when you are 16

 

[Flashback]

I've done domestic international legs a few times just by using a drivers licence. A learners permit is simply a drivers licence with conditions. It meets the requirement of being a government issued photo id. So in terms of identifying you it should be fine. I wouldn't waste time getting a passport if you don't have to get it. For a start there is generally a requirement to have 6 months validity on your passport to enter a country. I lost about 1 year off my last passport because of having a 3 week trip about 5.5 month before my passport expired. So if you don't know when you are going to travel internationally it is better to delay getting a passport as long as possible

You say that now when you are 16

Not in Perth, unless it's changed since last year... our learner's license is just a piece of paper! :shock:

 

[medhead]

Not in Perth, unless it's changed since last year... our learner's license is just a piece of paper! :shock:

In the 21st century things are different. WA will get there eventually.....

Actually, I thought the uniform road rules introduced sometime in the early 1990s required everyone to have photo driver's licences. Now you got me thinking, I'm pretty sure my Qld learner's permit in 1988 had a photo. :?:

 

[samh004]

Actually, I thought the uniform road rules introduced sometime in the early 1990s required everyone to have photo driver's licences. Now you got me thinking, I'm pretty sure my Qld learner's permit in 1988 had a photo. :?:

Don't get us started on QLD drivers licenses. All you need is a laminating machine