Internationally Configured QF Flights MEL to PER

[muppet]

Hi Guys

I recall some announcement by QF of more 'internationally configured' planes going between PER and the East Coast.

Is there an easy way for me to work out which aircraft have skybeds?

I'm on an A330 - 200??

Also, on a side note, I assume the PER - HKG A333-300 has sky beds?

Thanks
m.

 

[harvyk]

Also, on a side note, I assume the PER - HKG A333-300 has sky beds?

Thanks
m.

I believe all QF A333's are skybed equiped...

 

[Austman]

I'm flying J class PER-MEL in a couple of weeks. Choices for me for the whole afternoon are an A330-200 (with the 2-3-2 layout sold as 2-1workspace1-2), a 737-800 or a 767. Hardly an international standard for the whole pm of my day of travel!

Some of the morning flights are A330-300s - they are the international ones with SkyBeds that you want! The have just 5 rows AB-EF-JK.

There are 4 A330-200s with SkyBeds too - they have 6 rows AB-EF-JK.

But there are 4 A330-200s with a domestic (non-SkyBed configuration) - they have 6 rows AB-DF-JK.

So if there is a seat D - it's domestic...

 

[mannej]

I am sure that 772/773 is an A333, so Skybeds. Its interesting you mention PER-HKG, as I believe that 773 continues onto 67 (it seems to), and yes you do get Skybeds on this route.

QFSource did state that OGO (Domestic 763) did QF67 a few months ago, but I think that may be an error more than anything.

 

[muppet]

I believe all QF A333's are skybed equiped...

I'm flying J class PER-MEL in a couple of weeks. Choices for me for the whole afternoon are an A330-200 (with the 2-3-2 layout sold as 2-1workspace1-2), a 737-800 or a 767. Hardly an international standard for the whole pm of my day of travel!

Some of the morning flights are A330-300s - they are the international ones with SkyBeds that you want! The have just 5 rows AB-EF-JK.

There are 4 A330-200s with SkyBeds too - they have 6 rows AB-EF-JK.

But there are 4 A330-200s with a domestic (non-SkyBed configuration) - they have 6 rows AB-DF-JK.

So if there is a seat D - it's domestic...

Thanks harvyk and Austman with the quick replies.

Sadly the MEL - PER flight has a D seat . Is the flight bearable? Am I better off with a 767 or 737 instead?

 

[Austman]

Sadly the MEL - PER flight has a D seat . Is the flight bearable? Am I better off with a 767 or 737 instead?

I'm in the same boat.. err... plane. I'm sure it will be bearable. It will just be so much worse than a SkyBed flight that is sold for exactly the same price. I'd change to an A330-300 (or -200 with SkyBeds) but I'm connecting in Perth (QF to QF) and my options are limited due to flight timing.

 

[Austman]

But there are 4 A330-200s with a domestic (non-SkyBed configuration) - they have 6 rows AB-DF-JK.

So if there is a seat D - it's domestic...

The above is according to The Qantas Source. The 4 domestic A330-200s are: EBM/EBN/EBO/EBP. And The Qantas Source says they are all 6 rows AB-DF-JK.

But qantas.com shows that EBM and EBN are AB-EF-JK. I don't know which is correct. But still, if there's a D seat there, it's not a SkyBed flight.

The other difference is that A330-200s with SkyBeds have the 6 rows split over two cabins whereas the domestic A330-200s have the 6 rows in one cabin.

 

[Austman]

The above is according to The Qantas Source. The 4 domestic A330-200s are: EBM/EBN/EBO/EBP. And The Qantas Source says they are all 6 rows AB-DF-JK.

But qantas.com shows that EBM and EBN are AB-EF-JK.

The Qantas Source now shows EBM and EBN as AB-EF-JK too. So only EBO and EBP have the D seats and the 'workspace'.

 

[Danger]

The above is according to The Qantas Source. The 4 domestic A330-200s are: EBM/EBN/EBO/EBP. And The Qantas Source says they are all 6 rows AB-DF-JK.

But qantas.com shows that EBM and EBN are AB-EF-JK. I don't know which is correct. But still, if there's a D seat there, it's not a SkyBed flight.

The other difference is that A330-200s with SkyBeds have the 6 rows split over two cabins whereas the domestic A330-200s have the 6 rows in one cabin.

The Qantas Source now shows EBM and EBN as AB-EF-JK too. So only EBO and EBP have the D seats and the 'workspace'.

I flew on EBN last night PER-MEL. It had no skybeds nor D seats in J (2-2-2 config). So I'm still confused!

 

[serfty]

I flew on EBN last night PER-MEL. It had no skybeds nor D seats in J (2-2-2 config). So I'm still confused!

That's what Austman indicated with their correction in relation to EBN:

The Qantas Source now shows EBM and EBN as AB-EF-JK too. So only EBO and EBP have the D seats and the 'workspace'.

http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/332-36J265Y.pdf

 

[Danger]

Okay so would it be fair to say that the A332s with skybeds in J have both (i) a 2-2-2 config in J with no D seat and (ii) only DEFG missing in row 23 (as opposed to row 24 also on non-Skybed equipped A332s)?

 

[serfty]

That's about right.

In reality you may not be able to tell by looking at QF offered business only class seat maps in seat selection. E/F is no help.

Economy seat maps are of more use. Domestic configuration for 332 have:

• [*=1]Rows 36-42 & 59 - these do not exist on the International versions.[*=1]No 24D/E/F/G - these seats do exist on the international versions &[*=1]rear exit row is 44 - it's row 45 on the international versions.

FWIW, with the Domestic versions EBO/EBP have seats 43A/B as well.

 

[Austman]

... Or do the international (i.e SkyBed in J) A330-200s show a galley (knife/fork symbol) between rows 3 and 4 on the seat map? If so - that would distinguish them.

 

[mannej]

How often are the SkyBed 332's on MEL-PER vv.?

I hardly ever see them pop up, I thought they were more saved for the SYD-PER rotations and generally only on some rotations.

772/773 seems to be one way of stitching up a Skybed, but that would be about the only way on the MEL-PER route?