It pays to check your CC statement!

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I did actually receive an explanatory letter subsequent to noticing the extra charge, but the sentiment in the thread title is still true in any case.

A few days after a recent short (one night), pleasant and uneventful stay at a Hilton property, I was checking my credit card transactions online and noticed a charge of ~$80 to the property in question. Was quite sure I had not incurred any extra charges but racked the old brain anyway and recalled as best as I could from checkin to checkout, but could not think of any reason I should be charged. My 'receipt' was clean.

So I rang them and the pleasant lady at the other of the phone 'looked me up' and was as perplexed as I was, and said she would get her boss to call me back after they investigated. An hour or so later I checked the mailbox and there was a letter from the property, and while I won't quote it verbatim, essentially they were charging me for consuming 10 mini-bar items (all drinks, both alcoholic and non-alcoholic, and each listed individually). Now it is possible I opened the mini-bar fridge door for a look (I like to nose around when I check in to hotel rooms) but there was no way I consumed a single item from it - I rarely do. In fact, I was probably in the room and awake for about 2 or 3 hours total, and part of that was showering/dressing/packing so I would have been 'sloshing' around had I managed to put myself outside that much liquid in that sort of time frame!

So I rang back and advised the same lady I now knew what they were charging me for - mini-bar, and she said to me without prompting something like "and you did not use it, correct?", which I confirmed as correct. She apologised and without hesitation said she would reverse the charge.

There's good and bad in this:

First the bad: that it happened in the first place. The 'system' (honesty at checkout, essentially, for a single night stay, or the last night of a multi-night stay) is not the greatest.

Then the good: that they wrote an explanatory letter and detailed/itemised what the charges were for, rather than just charging the CC and leaving it at that, and the polite and efficient way it was handled on the phone (assuming the reversal happens as promised;))

I can only speculate on why it happened: wrong room number recorded somewhere, mini-bar had not been restocked after the prior occupant's stay, some sort of fraudulence on the part of a guest or staff member, who knows?

I liken it a bit to rental car returns: you park it in the lot, drop off the key and off you go. From the minute you walk away from the car, anything can happen to it and because they don't usually have someone in the parking lot to inspect it, potentially any damage that occurred after you parked and left it could be attributed to you. Just like they don't inspect your room/mini-bar when you check out. I understand that is not really practical, but it could potentially lead to errant extra charges like those above.

Anyway, subject to the reversal happening soon, I'm perfectly happy with the way the property handled the issue.

I cannot recall this happening to me before - anyone else had this sort of problem (not just with Hilton) before, and what was the outcome?
 
Had it happen at the W-A NYC.We had complained on checkout about a number of problems.just got it reversed by DC.Then got an email from the GM apologising and saying it was for mini bar usage on the final night but noted we had not used it the previous 4 nights.
Has happened on another couple of occasions and also at Hiltons in US.
 
Now it is possible I opened the mini-bar fridge door for a look (I like to nose around when I check in to hotel rooms)

Did the hotel have sensors in the fridge for the mini-bar ?

If so the "nosing around" meant you moved mini-bar items...
 
Don't they have those fancy fridges that automatically add minibar items to your account once out of the fridge? There are sensors under each item, not sure if all Hilton's use them….
 
Has happened to me at Holiday Inn Melbourne, city one. mini bar again and I think it was $23.00 or so, after a phone call the charge got reversed.
 
Don't they have those fancy fridges that automatically add minibar items to your account once out of the fridge? There are sensors under each item, not sure if all Hilton's use them….
Some Hiltons have them but most do not from my experience.
 
Did the hotel have sensors in the fridge for the mini-bar ?

If so the "nosing around" meant you moved mini-bar items...

Don't they have those fancy fridges that automatically add minibar items to your account once out of the fridge? There are sensors under each item, not sure if all Hilton's use them….

I have seen these before, but I don't think it was the case here. In any case I think I just literally opened the door, peeked for about 2 seconds, and closed it. Look, no touch!
 
Some Hiltons have the sensors, from memory Sydney is one that does.

I copped some post stay mini bar charges from holiday inn darling harbour which was a surprise as it was completely empty when I checked in.

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Did the hotel have sensors in the fridge for the mini-bar ?

If so the "nosing around" meant you moved mini-bar items...
All hotels I have stayed with the sensors have advised at check-in that they were there... something to be careful of through.
 
Those sensor minibar fridges are the worst. I don't even open them now. Even an open and close with barely a look seems to set the sensors off and record a sale.

I'm particularly sensitive to mini bar charges as I seem to get slugged, one way or another about 50% of the time and I _never_ ever actually take anything from the fridge. Charges are always reversed of course, but its starts getting annoying pretty quickly.
 
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Those sensor minibar fridges are the worst. I don't even open them now. Even an open and close with barely a look seems to set the sensors off and record a sale.

I'm particularly sensitive to mini bar charges as I seem to get slugged, one way or another about 50% of the time and I _never_ ever actually take anything from the fridge. Charges are always reversed of course, but its starts getting annoying pretty quickly.
Agree, I tread carefully with the stupid auto-fridges.

Of course then there is the ignorant! My brother had checked in at the Hilton in Frankfurt early in the morning off QF5, I was arriving that night via ATH..he purchased some drinks from a nearby shop and emptied the fridge of *everything* to keep his stuff cold! Thankfully I was well aware of what he had done and a quick word to the front desk meant the charge were wiped :)
 
Of course then there is the ignorant! My brother had checked in at the Hilton in Frankfurt early in the morning off QF5, I was arriving that night via ATH..he purchased some drinks from a nearby shop and emptied the fridge of *everything* to keep his stuff cold! Thankfully I was well aware of what he had done and a quick word to the front desk meant the charge were wiped :)

I do this sometimes as well but now I know to watch out for these sensor fridges :!: :)
 
This is why when I stay at hotels I pay the holding fee with cash.

No probs with after charges.

I have had to pay for any empty Mini Bar but I didn't complain because I did or what I can remember but I think a few where drunk by the Fairies.
 
This is why when I stay at hotels I pay the holding fee with cash.

No probs with after charges.

If they have a credit card number (for the booking or used at check-out) I think they will charge that. They are allowed to, but they have to tell you they are doing it. You can then do a charge-back if you disagree with the charge and the hotel refuses to refund. I've had lots of erroneous post stay charges, but have only used the charge-back once when a hotel charged me a cleaning fee for smoking in the room, which didn't happen - it was just a smoke smelly room.
 
If they have a credit card number (for the booking or used at check-out) I think they will charge that. They are allowed to, but they have to tell you they are doing it. You can then do a charge-back if you disagree with the charge and the hotel refuses to refund. I've had lots of erroneous post stay charges, but have only used the charge-back once when a hotel charged me a cleaning fee for smoking in the room, which didn't happen - it was just a smoke smelly room.

When I book a hotel a lot of the time I book it via Wotif or Last minute or something similar. So the hotel actually don't get my CC number.

It would be fraud if the hotel rang Wotif and asked for my CC number to put some addition charges to my room.

I pay a cash deposit and never had any probs apart from one hotel wanting app the same as what the actually booking price in cash as the holding deposit and I was staying there for 10 days so it was app $5K Fijian.
 
I pay a cash deposit and never had any probs apart from one hotel wanting app the same as what the actually booking price in cash as the holding deposit and I was staying there for 10 days so it was app $5K Fijian.

And do you pay cash at check-out too? It must be interesting offering a cash deposit at check-in time - I've not seen that!
 
It has happened to me a few times but usually sorted at check-out.

I hardly ever use a mini bar. From memory it is ฿250 for a can of Heineken or Singha at Millenium Hilton. For that amount I can walk down to 7Eleven and buy 7 cans and get change as well.

As a guest of the hotel is it too much to ask for some room in the fridge? In some hotels there is no room to put anything in the fridge.
 
I've done work for HHG on many occasions, and whilst our contract states that we can consume anything out of the mini bar at no charge, excluding the alcohol (those tiny ripoffs, beer and wines are charged. Fair enough, however I got caught out once, when the previous guest had consumed some vodka and they hadn't notated it. Of course I never used to check the spirits part of the minibar, however, since then I check the lot! And yes, I've moved the stuff around and it has set off the recording system, but I politely explained I hadn't consumed anything. They're response: "You're not the first; it records even if you take out and place back in, when you're trying to get to a product at the back. I'll remove the charge for you."

One of their Heads of Marketing *hates* the system with a passion and wishes it had never been implemented - for exactly the reasons we've all stated. Not very guest friendly, was her remark - and I have to agree. :)

The honour system seems to work fairly well - although I also got caught out when someone had expertly removed the chocolate from a Cadbury's box (oh the advantages of the paper wrapping!) and placed it back as if it were still full. Didn't find out until I felt like a sugar fix, and had to call down to get it replaced. :O
 
And do you pay cash at check-out too? It must be interesting offering a cash deposit at check-in time - I've not seen that!

I pay the entire bill with cash on check out as well.

When I stayed in Fiji in August for 10 days I gave the hotel $2K Fijian and our final bill was $4k so I had to get the money out over a few days as I could only get $1K per day out of the ATM at the hotel.

No points but then no nasty surprises either.

One hotel I stayed at in Philippines was happy to take my cash deposit but when the final bill came they didn't want cash they told me I had to settle it with a CC.

I said my CC was maxed so they took the cash.

My bill was app $20K PHP and I was only there 3 nights(20K PHP is close to a 3 to 4 months wages for some people over there)
 
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