LAN New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

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LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

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Hi all, I flew with LAN late last year and while the hard product was fairly good, the service was really quite bad. A mate convinced me to try them again, and I figured that I may have just lucked out with a bad crew. I was also keen to try the -9 version of the 787.

LAN have quite a small check-in section so the queue was quite long! Fortunately the premium queue was completely empty and we were through the Express security within minutes. For interests’ sake, a friend took the standard path through security/customs and I think I bet him by around 1 min.

Boarding was civil and well managed.
We were welcomed on board by a friendly guy (who I suspect was the CSM?) and sent to our seats.
I believe that the interior is the same as that in the new LAN Airbus A350 and it’s a nice place to be. The colours are great and the seats are soft and wide. It’s more of a traditional lay out with 2-2-2 seating rather than the common 1-2-1 suite style now becoming the norm. It felt incredibly spacious and a pleasant place to be. A very quiet (possibly his first few flights?) FA arrived and gave us a drink (I got a LAN special which I believe had Kiwi fruit in it but I struggled to hear his description) and some nuts (which were at room temperature).
Take-off was on time and I believe that those engines spooling up to max power will never get old. They sound fantastic!

Lunch arrived fairly promptly and tasted fine. There were no descriptions that I could find or choices as it just arrived. I think it was vegetarian (which wasn’t a problem). I had a glass of white wine (from Chile I believe) which tasted fine, although there were no top-ups at any stage during the flight.
The lunch utensils were promptly taken and we didn’t see the FAs again until we were walking off the plane.
The IFE was average as there wasn’t a lot of content (ie. The episodes of Modern Family were >5 years old). The menus open and close quickly and the screen is of a great quality, but it’s physically a long way away from your face so you’re sometimes squinting.
The flight arrived on time and it was a fantastic day in Auckland so the view was great.

Over all, the hard product is certainly better than QF’s trans-Tasman J and I do love the 789s. The hard product is a bit different to EK’s in that EK’s is more of a suite while LAN’s seats are more spacious. The food was fine but the poor service left a bitter taste in our mouths. While QF’s hard product is rather poor, everything else is usually great (I was referred to by name for my entire last flight, and I was only PS or just SG at the time). EK, on the other hand, have both the hard and soft product down pat and next time I’m flying tran-Tasman J, I’ll be choosing between EK and QF (learning towards the former).
 
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Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

The problem with LAN (am currently flying around Sth Am with them) is that the soft product is sooooooo variable. SCL to IPC, a sad tired omelette for lunch and no liquor, IPC to SCL 3 choices and booze aplenty. No lounges though unless you fly international (quite the shock). SCL to EZE they couldn't treat us well enough despite the short sector and lounge was ok.

IFE is poor to average unless you haven't seen the films. Agree about the seat (350 is TAM, not LAN, although soon to be combined but product is the same). Am not fussed about the 2-2-2 layout like others.

Lots of other sectors, all 320's where the service is...interesting. Very JQ even upfront (they don't do J on that plane, but call it Y+ - lol)
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Thanks for the report. The timing of the departure doesn't suit my normal Trans-Tasman needs - I mainly take the approx. 7pm flights or the Melbourne red-eyes. But had contemplated LAN before - don't think I'll bother now.

Good comments re the IFE being easy and quick to navigate. That makes a big difference.

But I am stunned you had no choice/info for lunch, and one wine on a 3 hour J flight - seriously?? I've had far better in Y on QF and even on EK Y trans-Tasman.

Were you one of the last to be served (hence no choice)? Presumably the FAs came if a call button was pushed?

Cheers.
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

The problem with LAN (am currently flying around Sth Am with them) is that the soft product is sooooooo variable. SCL to IPC, a sad tired omelette for lunch and no liquor, IPC to SCL 3 choices and booze aplenty. No lounges though unless you fly international (quite the shock). SCL to EZE they couldn't treat us well enough despite the short sector and lounge was ok.

IFE is poor to average unless you haven't seen the films. Agree about the seat (350 is TAM, not LAN, although soon to be combined but product is the same). Am not fussed about the 2-2-2 layout like others.

Lots of other sectors, all 320's where the service is...interesting. Very JQ even upfront (they don't do J on that plane, but call it Y+ - lol)
Agreed. They have potential but it seems that they're happy with 6/10, and have gone home for a siesta. :p

Thanks for the report. The timing of the departure doesn't suit my normal Trans-Tasman needs - I mainly take the approx. 7pm flights or the Melbourne red-eyes. But had contemplated LAN before - don't think I'll bother now.

Good comments re the IFE being easy and quick to navigate. That makes a big difference.

But I am stunned you had no choice/info for lunch, and one wine on a 3 hour J flight - seriously?? I've had far better in Y on QF and even on EK Y trans-Tasman.

Were you one of the last to be served (hence no choice)? Presumably the FAs came if a call button was pushed?

Cheers.
The mid-morning flight is a pleasant time, but the return from AKL leaves at ~0600 which would be deeply unpleasant.

Nope we were in row 3, and since half of the cabin was empty, there was probably only a few people ahead of us. I didn't use the call button as I hate to make demands/requests, and IMO, in premium cabins, the FAs should be around often enough to "make eye contact" with if you need something (that isn't urgent).
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Topping up your wine is always urgent!
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Very nice video, thanks for posting it here.

I though about trying LAN's B789 to AKL, mainly because the price of J return is attractive.

I'm not big fan of 2-2-2 layout, disappointing some airlines still go for it in J.

The soft product seems to be more Y+ than J.

As you said, EK do it right, think I'll stick with them for my Trans Tasman flights.
Just waiting for another sale...
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Great report, thanks.

LAN are completely frustrating with the variability of service (soft product). Around Sth America earlier this year about half the flights I'd class as "good' , others "we couldn't give a rat's behind". I too noted the lack of pax engagement on both SYD-AKL and AKL-SCL legs (old A340) and I concluded it was because the crew lacked confidence in English - a couple of times I tried some small talk and 3/3 crew struggled. No excuse for hiding behind the curtain, though!
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Great report, thanks.

LAN are completely frustrating with the variability of service (soft product). Around Sth America earlier this year about half the flights I'd class as "good' , others "we couldn't give a rat's behind". I too noted the lack of pax engagement on both SYD-AKL and AKL-SCL legs (old A340) and I concluded it was because the crew lacked confidence in English - a couple of times I tried some small talk and 3/3 crew struggled. No excuse for hiding behind the curtain, though!
Thanks.
Agreed on both counts. Often the trouble understanding english can be a source of humour, as anyone who's visited Thailand will know. :)
I did find both the Y and J crew sitting behind the curtains laughing when I went for a walk along the full length of the aircraft and I wasn't impressed...
 
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Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Well as someone who can barely speak just one language, I can appreciate how this might be a factor for some crew in some circumstances. But in my experience cabin crew aren't (generally) the shy and retiring types! This just sounds like taking the easy way out, cost-minimising, or both.

The cabin layout and legroom look great if you are travelling with someone and/or it's a shorter flight. But I agree boomy the 1-2-1 layouts are better. Still, this seems better than BA's J configuration!
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Fantastic video as always, PaulST - thanks for the insight into LAN's J class.

If I may ask, what was the song used in the background of the video? I think I detected a hint of Tracy Chapman's Fast Car​.
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Agreed. They have potential but it seems that they're happy with 6/10, and have gone home for a siesta. :p

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That cracked me up with the accuracy
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

Fantastic video as always, PaulST - thanks for the insight into LAN's J class.

If I may ask, what was the song used in the background of the video? I think I detected a hint of Tracy Chapman's Fast Car​.
The music is by CAPO productions and the two songs are 'Till the End' and 'The Beginning'.
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

An update.
I did the LAN800 787 service from Sydney to Auckland this week. I last did it in late 2015 so thought an update was overdue, at least for myself.
The check in was a short wait in the Premium Business queue because of the size of the families checking in ahead of me with an average 2 suitcases each and six passengers per family. They must have been status passengers (although they did not look like it) because they were not in the business class cabin on board.
After a visit to the QF F lounge for the usual excellent experience I boarded without any delay. I was seated in 3J despite having requested 2C but being told it was already allocated. On board it was empty and remained that way for the whole flight.
Once on board the obligatory champers was offered and accepted.
The meal service has been changed to “snack” whereas it was previously lunch. The FA explained lunch was now served between AKL and Santiago despite out arrival into AKL at about 5pm (local time). Go figure ! There was one choice for a hot snack and because the main was small I asked for seconds. Sorry 13 business class passengers and 13 snacks on board. Service on board was otherwise satisfactory but no recognition of QF status.
IFE movies offered a couple of current release to DVD and otherwise was a little under whelming.
Overall it beats QF TT service on the 738’s except for the meal service. I would still travel EK if they had a flight departing SYD around midday (which they obviously cannot) but I am now in the EK AKL lounge awaiting my return flight (in J) to SYD - which says it all
 
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The seating issue is interesting as I was travelling with a mate and I rang up to try and get us seated together and they said that the J cabin was full and we had to sit apart. As so happened, the cabin was half empty when we actually flew so there's either something wrong with the system, or a massive family missed the flight...
Downsizing lunch to a snack seems poor!
I'd tend to agree that the hard product is fairly good (certainly more room than QF) but overall, the best trans-Tasman J is still (and quite easily) EK.
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

The seating issue is interesting as I was travelling with a mate and I rang up to try and get us seated together and they said that the J cabin was full and we had to sit apart. As so happened, the cabin was half empty when we actually flew so there's either something wrong with the system, or a massive family missed the flight...
Downsizing lunch to a snack seems poor!
I'd tend to agree that the hard product is fairly good (certainly more room than QF) but overall, the best trans-Tasman J is still (and quite easily) EK.

I believe under the codeshare QF and LA both sell blocks of seats on this flight SYD-AKL-SCL (and the QF SYD-SCL flight), so it's not uncommon to see one airline "sold out" and the other one with seats available.

Perhaps whichever one you called had "sold out" their allocation of seats so had no options showing to them to move you.
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

I believe under the codeshare QF and LA both sell blocks of seats on this flight SYD-AKL-SCL (and the QF SYD-SCL flight), so it's not uncommon to see one airline "sold out" and the other one with seats available.

Perhaps whichever one you called had "sold out" their allocation of seats so had no options showing to them to move you.
You're probably right (we booked through LAN) but still, there was barely anyone in the J cabin. Ah well, we got to choose seats together once the online check-in opened (which had far more free seats).
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

I believe under the codeshare QF and LA both sell blocks of seats on this flight SYD-AKL-SCL (and the QF SYD-SCL flight), so it's not uncommon to see one airline "sold out" and the other one with seats available.

Perhaps whichever one you called had "sold out" their allocation of seats so had no options showing to them to move you.
Seriously doubt that. We flew them all around Sth America last year and the same story, but no one is buying half their J cabin there, especially to Easter Island. Alas, I think it's just LAN and their 'LAN-ness', they couldn't organise themselves out of a wet paper bag at the best of times
 
Re: LAN's New Business class - 787-9 trans-Tasman TR

.... but no one is buying half their J cabin there, especially to Easter Island. .....

*mumbles to herself* The more I read about their "LAN-ness", the more I worry and will be padding an extra day for delays in the itinerary for just in case.
 
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