Level up to Platinum

[djchuckles]

Hi

I'm about 60 SC away from Platinum and the flight that will take me over is a flight with Singapore to JHB - worth 160 points and my girlfriends 160 points will also pool to me.

Question is, if i'm on 940 SC now - when those flights happen - of the 320 I will earn - will the Velocity system be smart enough to use 60 of the 320 to get me to Platinum and then use the remaining 260 towards my next year's requal?

Hope the question makes sense?!

 

[clarmich]

Requal is on a rolling 12 month cycle so your "over earn" will be no good to you in the following year, unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Cancel the pooling and for the return (if on VA) pool back to her. Get her past silver and well on her way to gold in her own right.

 

[djchuckles]

Requal is on a rolling 12 month cycle so your "over earn" will be no good to you in the following year, unfortunately.

so 260 points go to waste!? Seems crazy

 

[Bolthead]

Cancel the pooling and for the return (if on VA) pool back to her. Get her past silver and well on her way to gold in her own right.

Requal is on a rolling 12 month cycle so your "over earn" will be no good to you in the following year, unfortunately.

Good advice by all, however.....

I know chuckles has mentioned that his requal is next year however to me "next year" could be a little ambiguous. For instance my anniversary date is October and to me next year (or the next 12 months) starts in October (in my case). I agree with what you have said however I think chuckles just needs to keep in mind his anniversary date. ( and the amount of flying he thinks he will do in the future.

 

[djchuckles]

Thanks guys

So i'm gold now - so on the day i hit 1000 I will automatically go up to Platinum I assume - then i guess my requal date is exactly a year from then?

The Singapore flight is two legs - one with 80 and one with 60 SC's - i am just trying to work out the best way to make sure I don't waste SC's

 

[dandandan]

If time permits, maybe a stopover in Singapore for a few days could work possibly. I am sure I have read here before international flights credit per sector, Someone should be able to clarify this but I am also sure if it is the same with Singapore airlines.

Thanks guys

So i'm gold now - so on the day i hit 1000 I will automatically go up to Platinum I assume - then i guess my requal date is exactly a year from then?

The Singapore flight is two legs - one with 80 and one with 60 SC's - i am just trying to work out the best way to make sure I don't waste SC's

 

[ROTR]

Adding something else into this mix that is related, when checking my current online statement, I see that required number of eligible sectors for status moves has a 'note 3' next to it.
The note states the following - does this mean that SQ booked/coded flights will no longer count towards status....?

"Eligible Sector means a flight journey from an origin to a destination:

(a) that has been flown;
(b) that has been purchased using cash or credit;
(c) that has not been purchased in whole or in part using Points; and
(d) where Virgin Australia is the marketing carrier (This means that the flight number starts with a DJ or VA prefix)."


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[Fruitcake]

Adding something else into this mix that is related, when checking my current online statement, I see that required number of eligible sectors for status moves has a 'note 3' next to it.
The note states the following - does this mean that SQ booked/coded flights will no longer count towards status....?

"Eligible Sector means a flight journey from an origin to a destination:

(a) that has been flown;
(b) that has been purchased using cash or credit;
(c) that has not been purchased in whole or in part using Points; and
(d) where Virgin Australia is the marketing carrier (This means that the flight number starts with a DJ or VA prefix)."


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That information refers to the upcoming change where a status upgrade requires both a specific number of status credits (which can be earned by flying on SQ, VA, DJ, HA, DL, EY or VS codes), in addition to a minimum number of "eligible sectors" on VA or DJ codes.

You can still earn 1000 status credits on SQ codes, just that you'll also need to pick up eight flights on DJ or VA codes somewhere along the way in order to earn the status upgrade.

 

[Sunburnt]

If time permits, maybe a stopover in Singapore for a few days could work possibly. I am sure I have read here before international flights credit per sector, Someone should be able to clarify this but I am also sure if it is the same with Singapore airlines.

My most recent experience with SQ was that all 4 flights (from/to ADL and in the region) posted within 2-3 days, and yes, they credit per sector. When we flew SQ in December/January, just after the deal came into effect, some flights took 2 months to post! FWIW

So if you stayed in Singapore for a few days, and if the flight ex Australia posted straight away, and if your status was reviewed and upped to Platinum before your flights to JHB, then you could minimise your 'loss' of SCs. That's a lot of ifs...

 

[leemin]

ifyour status was reviewed and upped to Platinum before your flights to JHB

Given status reviews occur automatically every day, I wouldn't count this as an 'if' personally. However, that being the case, there's still a few ifs that have to fall into place...

 

[dandandan]

Excellent confirmation Sunburnt, so I guess that is looking as their best option if they want to maximise SC. From my experience, flights during Monday - Friday usually creidt within 24 hours, weekend flights either the Monday night or some time Tuesday. I am sure the OP would have a good case to put forward about any delay in credit of SC.

My most recent experience with SQ was that all 4 flights (from/to ADL and in the region) posted within 2-3 days, and yes, they credit per sector. When we flew SQ in December/January, just after the deal came into effect, some flights took 2 months to post! FWIW

So if you stayed in Singapore for a few days, and if the flight ex Australia posted straight away, and if your status was reviewed and upped to Platinum before your flights to JHB, then you could minimise your 'loss' of SCs. That's a lot of ifs...

 

[pshepvic]

VA holds the crediting of SCs until 10am 2 days after a flight. Then the upgrade of status happens overnight - so the quickest you're status will change is 3 days, and that's if it's a VA flight. For partners it invariably will take longer.

The required sectors don't count until after August 25, so if you get 1000 SCs before then you will be upgraded without the required sectors.

Finally, if for some reason the points from the return don't go to the next year (eg. They credit too quickly between each other and the system doesn't pick it up) phone the Plat call centre and they will do a manual adjustment to credit the SCs to your new requalifying year. This happened to me, and it took a bit of explaining at first for them to understand what I was saying but eventually they fixed it. If the return flight is at least 3-4 days after the first flight that gets you to platinum then generally it should credit to the next year anyway.


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[pshepvic]

By the way, if the flight over is enough to get you to Plat just based on your SCs, I would switch off pooling so your girlfriend gets her SCs going over (otherwise they would be totally wasted). You could then switch pooling back on whilst away so her return SCs go to your requal year. If you think you're going to requal easily in the next year though, you might want to just leave the pooling off as she would then be past halfway to silver herself, if that's a benefit to you guys.


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[djchuckles]

By the way, if the flight over is enough to get you to Plat just based on your SCs, I would switch off pooling so your girlfriend gets her SCs going over (otherwise they would be totally wasted). You could then switch pooling back on whilst away so her return SCs go to your requal year. If you think you're going to requal easily in the next year though, you might want to just leave the pooling off as she would then be past halfway to silver herself, if that's a benefit to you guys.


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Yea I think this is what we will do. Bit of a waste still as she doesn't need status as only flies with me

 

[pshepvic]

Yea I think this is what we will do. Bit of a waste still as she doesn't need status as only flies with me

If she flies with you enough to get silver though the extra 25% points may come in handy (or is it 50%? ...can't quite remember)


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[serfty]

Requal is on a rolling 12 month cycle so your "over earn" will be no good to you in the following year, unfortunately.

But this is no "Re" qualification, it is actual Qualification.

Does not a "new year" commence upon attaining a level? (The review date changes)

Review Date means the date 12 months after the date on which you:
(a) are upgraded or downgraded (as applicable) to a new Membership Level; ...

In which case latter earned SC would go toward the new "year" Qualification period.

 

[djchuckles]

But this is no "Re" qualification, it is actual Qualification.

Does not a "new year" commence upon attaining a level? (The review date changes)

In which case latter earned SC would go toward the new "year" Qualification period.

Latter earned would but ones earned at the same time as qualifying for platinum appear to go to waste. Weird thing is its only at that level really as silver to gold - at least the sc's would get you closer to plat even if they didn't help your gold requal

 

[pshepvic]

But this is no "Re" qualification, it is actual Qualification.

Does not a "new year" commence upon attaining a level? (The review date changes)

In which case latter earned SC would go toward the new "year" Qualification period.

Correct. The issue is that it takes at least 3 days to tick over to the new status in the system, and whilst the flights back-date to the day they were taken, the upgrade to the next status level does not backdate. Therefore if your next flight happens before that 3rd day (or potentially later if the qualifying flight was a partner airline) and even if it doesn't appear until after the status upgrade, it still credits to the previous membership year, as the system will backdate the flight. Happened to me when I first attained Plat - it's a flaw in the system as it makes the way they date certain events inconsistent. A call to the platinum contact centre sorts it out though, but it really should have been fixed in the system by now.


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[serfty]

Latter earned would but ones earned at the same time as qualifying for platinum appear to go to waste. Weird thing is its only at that level really as silver to gold - at least the sc's would get you closer to plat even if they didn't help your gold requal

So the best thing to do is to stop pooling before your trip.

Then while in South Africa, monitor your status and if your upgrade to WP comes through while there, re-instate the pooling.