Lounge Access when not flying Oneworld airlines

[JohnK]

I understand that as a Platinum I am allowed to access Qantas international business class lounges when not flying on a Oneworld airline. Am I allowed to bring in a guest? It would appear that I am allowed a guest as long as they are travelling with me.

Member and 1 guest can access lounge any time.^
Guest must be travelling with member.

^ Must be travelling, not necessarily on Qantas, British Airways or Jetstar to access the lounge.

Does this mean the guest has to be on the same flight(s) as me? Am I interpreting the access rules correctly or is there anywhere else I need to look?

 

[serfty]

... Does this mean the guest has to be on the same flight(s) as me? Am I interpreting the access rules correctly or is there anywhere else I need to look?

Fly - The Qantas Club - Lounge Access

I believe contextually this means the guest "must be travelling with you [on a carrier] not necessarily Qantas, British Airways or Jetstar" which could be further interpreted as having to be on the same flight(s).

 

[Cyclogenesis]

I thought that bit (and the difference between domestic) is that you have to be flying to get past passport control.

 

[JohnK]

I believe contextually this means the guest "must be travelling with you [on a carrier] not necessarily Qantas, British Airways or Jetstar" which could be further interpreted as having to be on the same flight(s).

That is how I am interpreting the conditions but I am just wondering if there is an override or alternate interpretation. I will have to print that webpage and carry it with me.

Lounge access for the guest, especially free alcohol for 2+ hours in SYD and SIN, could well sway the guests' decision to travel on the same SQ flight(s) as me.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I thought that bit (and the difference between domestic) is that you have to be flying to get past passport control.

Yes you do need to be flying to access international clubs anytime but useful for example when flying say HKG to China - you can pick up an el-cheapo on a non oneworld carrier (CX is very expensive) and still use the QF lounge.

mel-t

 

[Danger]

What about in ports where there is no Qantas Club? Can a QFF Platinum access, for example, the CX third party lounges in DPS if flying, say, Garuda? Or does it only apply in ports where there is a Qantas lounge (eg. Singapore, flying SQ to NRT)?

 

[Mal]

What about in ports where there is no Qantas Club? Can a QFF Platinum access, for example, the CX third party lounges in DPS if flying, say, Garuda? Or does it only apply in ports where there is a Qantas lounge (eg. Singapore, flying SQ to NRT)?

It's purely a benefit when accessing Qantas lounges. So some example lounges:

LAX (Qantas shared), SIN, BKK, SYD, HKG, NRT etc.

Not applicable to anyone else's lounges, and even Qantaslink has refused anytime access to some of their lounges to WP at times.

 

[samh004]

It's purely a benefit when accessing Qantas lounges. So some example lounges:

LAX (Qantas shared), SIN, BKK, SYD, HKG, NRT etc.

Not applicable to anyone else's lounges, and even Qantaslink has refused anytime access to some of their lounges to WP at times.

Do BA lounges count under the partnership they have?

 

[Mal]

Do BA lounges count under the partnership they have?

Only if they are a joint lounge, eg HKG/SIN/BKK, and potentially LHR T4 (but not too sure about this one).

 

[JohnK]

Last Saturday in BKK I was flying with SQ BKK-SIN and my friend was flying TG BKK-SYD. Checked in and then we went down to the Qantas Business Lounge. The plan was for me to go inside and grab a couple of beers and take them outside.

Got to the Qantas Business lounge reception and I took out my Platinum card and showed my SQ boarding pass and I politely asked the lady "I know I am not allowed to have a guest if not flying Oneworld airline but my friend is flying TG is there any chance he can come into the lounge as my guest?". The lady took my Platinum card swiped it and said "This is your lucky day". My friend was allowed into the lounge and we spent an hour or so having something to eat and a drink or two.

Very positive experience and not always going to happen but again it is one of the greatest benefits of Platinum status and it never hurts to ask politely. My friend was really happy that we were given lounge access.

 

[djfuzz]

Well done JohnK. We were at the BKK QF F lounge last Sunday, didn't get a chance to check out the J lounge unforunately.

To follow on from your query - if you are OWE/OWS (non-QF) flying OneWorld yourself, does your guest have to be travelling: (a) with you on the same flight?; (b) on the same carrier?; (c) on a OneWorld carrier?; or (d) just travelling?

Much like the WP anytime access rules, the OW elite rules say:

Member and 1 guest can access lounge on day of departure of a oneworld flight.#

#next onward flight that day must be on a oneworld Airline Members operated and marketed flight.Note: a oneworld marketed flight refers to a flight with a oneworld flight number, eg QF1 or AA222. A oneworld operated flight refers to the actual aircraft or 'metal' on which you fly, eg Finnair aircraft.

There is no direct qualification of the guest's travel status, just your own - unlike the WP/SG rules which spell out explicitly that the guest must be travelling with you. So could you hypothetically bring in a non-OW guest in to a QP?

We tried guesting a friend into The Pier while travelling on CX, while the guest was on a different CX flight in Y. Despite their sign saying that OWEs (not just CX MPC Diamonds) could take two guests into the F lounge, they told us we could only take her in if we went through to the J lounge. Didn't argue the point due to time limitations, but it did seem a negative departure from their stated policies.

 

[Renato]

Last Saturday in BKK I was flying with SQ BKK-SIN and my friend was flying TG BKK-SYD. Checked in and then we went down to the Qantas Business Lounge. The plan was for me to go inside and grab a couple of beers and take them outside.

Got to the Qantas Business lounge reception and I took out my Platinum card and showed my SQ boarding pass and I politely asked the lady "I know I am not allowed to have a guest if not flying Oneworld airline but my friend is flying TG is there any chance he can come into the lounge as my guest?". The lady took my Platinum card swiped it and said "This is your lucky day". My friend was allowed into the lounge and we spent an hour or so having something to eat and a drink or two.

Very positive experience and not always going to happen but again it is one of the greatest benefits of Platinum status and it never hurts to ask politely. My friend was really happy that we were given lounge access.

I have been Platinum member for years and never knew about this ,tommorow i am flying Bangkok -London on Qatar and instead of using the Qatar lounge ( Thai Business Class ) i will try the Business Qantas/BA lounge , coming back on Thai Airways ,terminal 3 ,i think is there a one world lounge i can use there ??

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I have been Platinum member for years and never knew about this ,tommorow i am flying Bangkok -London on Qatar and instead of using the Qatar lounge ( Thai Business Class ) i will try the Business Qantas/BA lounge , coming back on Thai Airways ,terminal 3 ,i think is there a one world lounge i can use there ??

Hi renato - the to use the anytime lounge access as a Qantas plat you need to access a Qantas lounge (even a joint QF/BA lounge is fine) - not a Oneworld Lounge.

As it happends the BKK lounge is a qantas club lounge - so you'll be fine. I agree the QF lounge is much better than thai's offerings in BKK.

However ex UK, you'll need to find a QF lounge (or a joint QF/BA lounge) - not a pure BA one or a Oneworld one. The QF club locations guide on the qantas site lists all the lounges considered Qantas clubs.

 

[Renato]

Hi renato - the to use the anytime lounge access as a Qantas plat you need to access a Qantas lounge (even a joint QF/BA lounge is fine) - not a Oneworld Lounge.

As it happends the BKK lounge is a qantas club lounge - so you'll be fine. I agree the QF lounge is much better than thai's offerings in BKK.

However ex UK, you'll need to find a QF lounge (or a joint QF/BA lounge) - not a pure BA one or a Oneworld one. The QF club locations guide on the qantas site lists all the lounges considered Qantas clubs.

Hi ,Thanks for that ,understand now , i tried looking on the qantas FF website to find where it says Platinum can use Qantas lounge anytime when flying ,but cannot find it ,would you know the link by any chance ?

 

[Danger]

Check here in the : Fly - The Qantas Club - Lounge Access

"Qantas Club and Frequent Flyers." Cross-reference Platinum member with International Business Lounge.

 

[serfty]

Fly - The Qantas Club - Lounge Access

Until April 2008, WP also got "anytime" access to Qantas First Class lounges:

http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...no-anytime-access-platinum-members-11190.html