Mantra Hotel group

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With the Mantra hotel group planning to list on the stock exchange I was wondering what our AFFers thought of their products that includes Peppers.
I have never stayed in one so that is why I am asking.
All I have ever seen is surveys that rate them as ok.
 
Something of a second rising given they were part of MFS.
 
I stayed a couple of times in MEL mostly, when clients have put me into their hotels.

I'd rate them generally Ok for providing a bed in a decent room for an overnight stay, but I'd never go near them for a leisure stay (although maybe their Peppers type places have a different attitude).

I always came across at least one staff member who seemed to be on their first day on the job. Others seemed to be in the category of just showing up. You wouldn't go there for the ambiance.
 
The thing to know about Mantra, if you don't already, is that they operate a business model different to what many might expect.

Their core business is now as a developer that holds onsite management rights within strata complexes. And IMO they are very slick at it.

This allows them to develop buildings quickly, because they sell the individual units within their complexes to a range of buyers, just like a normal building developer, but then offer those buying for investment purposes the ability to holiday let through their onsite management team. The owners' corporation is set up so that Mantra has exclusive onsite management rights to the building. It means that Mantra can never be removed as manager of a building, unless it sells those rights to someone else.

On the side they have ancillary businesses that add value to their core business, like refurbishment & design; so that when it comes time to update apartment interiors, strata unit owners can pay to use Mantra's team to do everything, and keep their units with the same look and feel as other units (if they wish). This enables Mantra to have the outward appearance of a hotel operator, while in fact they are actually a holiday/short term letting agency.

They have a vast array of fees and charges which they slug onto unit owners, who participate in their letting scheme, that enables them to make money (as well as operating other onsite ancillary businesses like conference facilities and restaurants: However ancillary items like pools, gyms, gardens etc, which don't generate direct income streams, are part of the strata and the costs to operate them are covered by the unit owners, not Mantra).
 
Tks dk4. Was vaguely aware of that, but not ever worrying about their places except sleeping, haven't gone into it.

What you describe is exactly how the 'feel' is - a managed property, not a hotel .
 
For people staying there really is no problem.The properties tend to be in reasonable tourist areas.Out of CBDs you are getting an apartment.In CBDs the smallest"apartments are basically a large hotel room.All the basic necessities and often much cheaper than real hotels.
I have stayed in 2 properties at Hervey Bay,1 on the Gold Coast and several in Sydney and Melbourne.No problems.
 
I'm staying in a Mantra apartment at Port Stephens this weekend and stayed at Peppers Beacon in Queenstown a couple of weeks ago. In the las 2.5 years, I'll have stayed in 8 Mantra group properties, half Mantra branded and half Peppers branded, mostly in Qld (Port Douglas and Broadbeach), but also in Tassie, ACT and Northern NSW (Kingscliff). They're mostly in tourist locations, many beachside. I haven't had any significant problems and for the price I pay (usually half price, through Departure Lounge), they are very good value for what you get. My stay at Peppers Queenstown was especially good - I paid just over $100 a night for a hotel room and was upgraded to a large two bedroom aprtment with full kitchen and lake/mountain views! Usual rate for that was approx. $400 a night. I'm not sure why they upgraded me from the cheapest room to almost the most expensive - is this usual? I have their 'membership program' (Club C U Soon) - maybe they could see how many times I've stayed and that made a difference? If anyone can shed some light on this, I'd be interested to know!
 
Thanks markis10 I have been in meetings all week so I had not heard. One of my brokers sent me a big dossier on the company and I was having trouble with the pricing that they were thinking as it looked higher than it would list at after the first few hours of trading.
 
Well Mantra got to yes so they will list as MTR on the ASX in a few days.
Seeing no one thought they were useless I have bought some.
The growth path for Mantra looks ok and our company tends to book 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartments when we have a group get together as it is great value compared with regular hotel rooms.
 
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Well Mantra got to yes so they will list as MTR on the ASX in a few days.
Seeing no one thought they were useless I have bought some.
The growth path for Mantra looks ok and our company tends to book 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartments when we have a group get together as it is great value compared with regular hotel rooms.

I guess that will mean the end of Departure Lounge and Club CU Soon shortly! Oh well, it was good while it lasted!
 
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