Odd QF J pricing - way cheaper than usual

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MichaelD

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I just came across some very odd J pricing behaviour on the Qantas website, with no obvious explanation at the moment.

Exhibit A: SYD - MEL pricing, 1 person - normal price @ $629

SYD-MEL J Normal.jpg

Exhibit B: SYD - MEL pricing, 2 persons same date/time @ $400 per person

SYD-MEL J Cheaper.jpg

There are no J sales on that I am aware of, and the cheaper price applies to 2+ booked at the same time up until whatever fare bucket these are coming from is full (I've found flights that will take anything from 2 - 5 J fares at this price so far).

Perhaps there is an imminent 2-for-1 Business sale coming up?
 
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Using my greasemonkey script, those fares book into I class.
 
To add a bit of info based on some poking around;

These fares start to appear from 30-Apr and are common 1-May onwards for;

MEL-SYD $400
MEL-BNE $599
SYD-BNE $400
MEL-ADL $399

Doesn't seem to apply to CBR or PER flights though.
 
I class is really a "Deep Discount" business class fare - most commonly seend in intenrational fares.

However, I have found this one is domestic - ICOMP.

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
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ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL                         MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
                                            BY A PASSENGER TRAVELING AT THIS RULE.
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Fare Routing Search:
 Departing MEL on 08/05/12 for SYD
Fare basis code ICOMP
Flying QF
Routing via Eastern Hemisphere

Rule Category                           Rule Text

RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS      NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
                                           VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                           QANTAS DOMESTIC COMPANION PROMOTIONAL BUSINESS CLASS
                                           APPLICATION
                                            AREA
                                             THESE FARES APPLY WITHIN AUSTRALIA.
                                            CLASS OF SERVICE
                                             THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
                                            TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
                                             FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
                                              ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
                                            CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
                                             SEATS ARE LIMITED.
                                            OTHER CONDITIONS
                                             FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE
                                             EXCEPT WHEN USED FOR EN ROUTE FOR ANOTHER FARE
                                             PROVIDED ALL CONDITIONS OF THESE FARES ARE MET OR
                                             FOR ASSESSING THE REFUND OF PARTIALLY TRAVELLED
                                             TICKET.
                                             ---
                                             PASSENGERS EXPENSES DO NOT APPLY.
                                        
ELIGIBILITY                                NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
                                        
DAY/TIME                                   NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                        
SEASONALITY                                NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                        
FLIGHT APPLICATION                         THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON
                                               ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
                                                   ANY QF FLIGHT.
                                        
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING                   NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  THIS FARE TYPE IS NOT APPLICABLE FOR GROUP
                                                  BOOKINGS. GROUP BOOKINGS ARE TO BE REQUESTED
                                                  THROUGH THE QANTAS GROUP SALES DEPARTMENT.
                                                  -----
                                        
MINIMUM STAY                               NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
                                        
MAXIMUM STAY                               NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
                                        
STOPOVERS                                  THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                             NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
                                               NO STOPOVER OCCURS IF PASSENGER TAKES NEXT
                                                AVAILABLE FLIGHT WITHIN SAME DAY.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  TRAVEL MUST BE WITHIN THE SAME CALENDAR DAY
                                        
TRANSFERS                                  UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
                                           FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
                                           THE FARE COMPONENT.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ROUTE MAPS.
                                                  ---
                                                  TRANSFERS WITHIN AU MUST BE ON SAME CALENDAR DAY
                                                  EXCEPT FOR 2 CITIES IN AUSTRALIA -
                                                  IF TRAVEL IS VIA PER A CONNECTION IS DEFINED AS
                                                  SAME DAY OR DAY OF ARRIVAL PLUS ONE DAY NOT
                                                  EXCEEDING 12HOURS
                                                  IF TRAVEL IS VIA DRW A CONNECTION IS DEFINED  AS
                                                  AS SAME DAY OR DAY OF ARRIVAL PLUS ONE DAY NOT
                                                  EXCEEDING 08HOURS
                                                  ---
                                        
COMBINATIONS                               END-ON-END
                                             END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
                                             COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
                                             RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
                                             TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
                                           OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
                                              CIRCLE TRIPS.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN
                                               ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF.
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER JQ IN
                                               ANY RULE IN ANY TARIFF.
                                        
BLACKOUT DATES                             NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
                                        
SURCHARGES                                 THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                           AND - WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN AUSTRALIA.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF AUD 15.00 WILL BE
                                             ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  THE ABOVE SURCHARGE APPLIES ONLY FOR
                                                  -  SALES MADE IN AUSTRALIA
                                                  -  BY AN AGENT THAT HAS NOT ELECTED TO PARTICIPATE
                                                     IN THE OPT-IN PROGRAMME.
                                                  ---
                                                  THIS SURCHARGE DOES NOT APPLY IF THE FARE IS SOLD
                                                  BY AN AGENT OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND.
                                           THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                           AND - WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN NEW ZEALAND.
                                             MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF NZD 15.00 WILL BE
                                             ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  THE ABOVE SURCHARGE APPLIES ONLY FOR
                                                  -  SALES MADE IN NEW ZEALAND
                                                  -  BY AN AGENT THAT HAS NOT ELECTED TO PARTICIPATE
                                                     IN THE OPT-IN PROGRAMME.
                                                  ---
                                                  THIS SURCHARGE DOES NOT APPLY IF THE FARE IS SOLD
                                                  BY AN AGENT OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND.
                                        
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL                         MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
                                           BY A PASSENGER TRAVELING AT THIS RULE.
                                        
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS                        VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON EACH TRIP ON/AFTER
                                           30APR12 AND ON/BEFORE 12SEP12.
                                        
SALES RESTRICTIONS                         FOOTNOTE RULE
                                           TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 14SEP12.
                                         
                                           FARE RULE
                                           EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  AUSTRALIAN GOODS AND SERVICES TAX /GST/ WILL
                                                  BE APPLIED TO ALL CHARGES/FEES WHICH ARE SPECIFIED
                                                  IN THE RULE.
                                                  ---ELECTRONIC TICKET REQUIRED---
                                                  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING
                                                  EXCEPT FOR -
                                                  -TICKETS ON WHICH THIS FARE IS COMBINED WITH OTHER
                                                   CARRIERS WHO DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN ELECTRONIC
                                                   TICKETING
                                                  -TICKETS INCLUDING TRAVEL ON ALL LAUNCH SERVICES
                                                  -TICKETS ISSUED OUTSIDE AUSTRALIA AND NEW ZEALAND
                                                  -FREQUENT FLYER BOOKINGS CLASSES X/T/U/Z
                                                  -BOOKINGS THAT CONTAIN CODE CBBG
                                                  -QANTAS CODESHARE NOT OPERATED BY AA/BA/JQ.
                                                  -REGIONAL AIRLINES/AIRPORTS WITH NO FACILITY TO
                                                   ISSUE E TICKETS
                                                  -EXCLUDED FLIGHTS
                                        
PENALTIES                                        NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  IF THE FARE AND OR TAXES HAVE INCREASED THE TICKET
                                                  MUST BE REISSUED AND THE ADDITIONAL FARE AND OR
                                                  TAXES COLLECTED
                                           
                                           CANCELLATIONS
                                           
                                             TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  THE ORIGINAL TICKET VALUE IS NON-REFUNDABLE AND
                                                  REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE AT ALL TIMES.
                                                  FAILURE TO BOARD A HELD FLIGHT - NO SHOW - RENDERS
                                                  THE COUPON VOID AND NO LONGER VALID FOR TRAVEL NOR
                                                  EXCHANGE.
                                                  ---
                                                  CANCELLATION FEES AS DESCRIBED ARE WAIVED FOR
                                                  DEATH OF THE PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER OR THE
                                                  WARD OF A LEGAL GUARDIAN.
                                        
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS                     NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
                                        
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS                        THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
                                           - VALID ON QF ONLY/NON-REF - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
                                        
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS                         INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO CHARGE.
                                             MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT PSGR.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  1 INFANT FREE OF CHARGE PER PAYING ADULT.
                                        
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS                   TUR/TOUR CONDUCTOR PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
                                        
AGENT DISCOUNTS                            FARE RULE
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  DISCOUNTS APPLY. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
                                         
                                           GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
                                           AGT/AGENT PSGR - NO DISCOUNT.
                                        
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS                        NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
                                        
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS                   NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
FARE BY RULE                               NOT APPLICABLE.
                                        
GROUPS                                     NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
TOURS                                      NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY                      NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
DEPOSITS                                   NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                        
VOLUNTARY CHANGES                          IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
                                           ANYTIME WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                           BY THOSE OF QF INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                           1 CHANGE PERMITTED - NO CHARGE CHARGE HIGHEST FEE OF
                                           ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS AND
                                             REPRICE
                                             A. CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS USE FARES IN EFFECT
                                             TODAY
                                             B. ALL OTHERS USE CURRENTLY TKTD FARE
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
                                             2. QF FARES ARE USED
                                             3. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF FARE COMPONENT
                                           REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                           ENDORSEMENTS.
                                        
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS                          NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
                                        
NEGOTIATED FARES                           NOT APPLICABLE.
                                        
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION                 NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Fare Routing Search:
Departing MEL on 08/05/12 for SYD
Fare basis code ICOMP
Flying QF
Routing via Eastern Hemisphere

    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1   ICOMP          I X   362.00 E30AP  T14SE  -    -/  - 9998
                                  D12SE                        
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-MEL TO-SYD    CXR-QF    TVL-08MAY12  RULE-5630 IPRTPFD/302
FARE BASIS-ICOMP             SPECIAL FARE  DIS-E   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BOX      OW-BUSINESS CLASS ONE WAY EXCURSION
AUD   351.34  9998  E30APR12 D12SEP12   FC-ICOMP  FN-P   
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 09FEB12/0634  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
PUBLISHED RTG MEL-SYD/QF9998/TAR-TGRG    EF-10FEB12 DIS-INDEF
 
/WITHIN THE EASTERN HEMISPHERE/
 TRAVEL MUST BE NONSTOP OR DIRECT
 
With double SC on I'd do it if I didn't have to travel with someone else, seeing as that worked out so well last time :p


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They are really good fares :) again, as Sam said, shame you need to take someone else. Did I read somewhere where you can pay for two seats, and get the points/SC for both (Comfort seat, I think it was referred to as)
 
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