Oman Air planning to join Oneworld in 2024

[jase05]

Your obsession with QR is bizarre and I’m not sure if you are serious or just fishing for fun.
WY is- relatively small outfit and their addition to OW will hardly be noticeable despite them being buddies with QR

 

[RooFlyer]

if you are serious or just fishing for fun.

As I've said before - a good leg pull on us all. Has to be.

Akky

 

[Mwenenzi]

QF as a founding member of oneworld, could and should use their veto powers to block Oman's OW application as this application is sponsored and driven by QR. Why are QF harming themselves by not using their veto and allowing QR to coerce them?

There is zero benefit for the national carrier if Oman joins, but plenty of potential harm and risks. A lot has changed in OW since Oman first announced its intentions in 2021, and the level of tension between QF and QR has never been hotter. It's high time QF made the right move which is available to them as a perk of being a founding member.

Can you provide evidence, that can be verified, that QF have veto powers in the oneworld alliance with respect to new members.

 

[elanshin]

Can you provide evidence, that can be verified, that QF have veto powers in the oneworld alliance with respect to new members.

All founding members of OW have veto powers. Its one of the speculated reasons why China Southern didnt end up joining when it left skyteam due to CX holding veto power and being literally next door neighbours.

Edit: for reference that's QF, CX, AA and BA now.

 

[RSVKanga]

WY is- relatively small outfit

When QR first applied for OW membership in the early 2010s, they were also a “relatively small outfit” and hence didn’t catch the attention of QF who had and has veto powers. They didn’t even fly to Australia back then.

Look what has happened in the 13 years since.

It’s time QF abandoned the myopia and use their lessons from hindsight and respond appropriately to this application. ME airlines are capable of rapid, exponential growth in terms of aircraft and destinations. And it’s not even WY alone, it’s QF’s main adversary QR that is fully behind this which makes this even more important for QF to reject. If it was someone else sponsoring and driving this application then maybe it could slide through.

 

[jase05]

When QR first applied for OW membership in the early 2010s, they were also a “relatively small outfit” and hence didn’t catch the attention of QF who had and has veto powers. They didn’t even fly to Australia back then.

Look what has happened in the 13 years since.

It’s time QF abandoned the myopia and use their lessons from hindsight and respond appropriately to this application. ME airlines are capable of rapid, exponential growth in terms of aircraft and destinations. And it’s not even WY alone, it’s QF’s main adversary QR that is fully behind this which makes this even more important for QF to reject. If it was someone else sponsoring and driving this application then maybe it could slide through.

WY are still a relatively “boutique” airline and I don’t see them having the desire to expand like QR do. QF doesn’t have anything to fear by their entry to OW

 

[elanshin]

I don't get the hate towards QR, by all means Qatar as a country has questionable things its done/doing but so does many other countries around the world.

Just because relations are rocky right now doesn't mean they're mortal enemies that will forever remain that way. Heck look at QR and airbus.

 

[Mwenenzi]

All founding members of OW have veto powers. Its one of the speculated reasons why China Southern didnt end up joining when it left skyteam due to CX holding veto power and being literally next door neighbours.

Edit: for reference that's QF, CX, AA and BA now.

Can you provide evidence, that can be verified, that QF have veto powers in the oneworld alliance with respect to new members.

 

[RSVKanga]

Can you provide evidence, that can be verified, that QF have veto powers in the oneworld alliance with respect to new members.

What evidence do you want? Everyone knows that QF, AA, BA and CX have veto powers as founding members of oneworld.

 

[Mwenenzi]

What evidence do you want? Everyone knows that QF, AA, BA and CX have veto powers as founding members of oneworld.

Can you provide evidence, that can be verified, that QF have veto powers in the oneworld alliance with respect to new members.
Maybe get those who are "everyone" to provide credible verifiable evidence. Random posts on the internet are not evidence.

 

[RSVKanga]

Can you provide evidence, that can be verified, that QF have veto powers in the oneworld alliance with respect to new members.
Maybe get those who are "everyone" to provide credible verifiable evidence. Random posts on the internet are not evidence.

I’m surprised you are unaware of OW veto rights. This isn’t just a OW thing, it applies to other alliances as well.

Is OMaaT not a verifiable source?

The oneworld alliance has four founding airlines that are still in business, including American Airlines, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, and Qantas. One of the perks of being a founding member of the alliance is that you get veto rights on new members joining.

 

[Joolz49]

True
Hopefully they are tight on their award availability

Sadly, probably true.
We travelled Business with them last year, from Australia to Europe at app $6100 and were blown away by the service and comfort.
I'll be using my One World miles with them instead of Qantas in future.

 

[Gold Member]

Ben claiming this will now be end of 2024

Oman Air Joining Oneworld Alliance In Late 2024

Oman Air will be joining the oneworld global airline alliance in late 2024. Here's what this means for passengers.

onemileatatime.com

 

[Ansett Nostalgic]

Looking forward to this - more options to fly in style and avoid the mediocrity of Qantas.

 

[WilsonM]

Despite the cost cutting measures going on at WY, this is still a good opportunity for those trying to book OW CR's - flying to CGK, MNL, KUL and BKK, connecting with some of the CR-available QF flights (and of course MH). The timings don't really work so you'd have to spend a night in most ports, and some shorter routes might be operated by 737s (narrowbody J recliners for 7.5 hours isn't the most appealing), but certainly a more useful alternative to get to Europe with 2 stops than RJ.

From OMAAT, the F lounge is worth visiting, so fingers crossed OWE are allowed in. WY J on the 787s is literally the same seat as JL, which is a good (not outstanding) product for sure. Even Y isn't terrible, with 34 inches of seat pitch - a little ironic that it's the same dimensions as NH Y on their 787s.

Will be interesting to see the carrier charges on redemptions though, as AC don't currently pass them on I think?

 

[madrooster]

Will be interesting to see the carrier charges on redemptions though, as AC don't currently pass them on I think?

It'll depend on the point of commencement.

For example, for point of commencement AU it'll probably be no fuel fines. For point of commencement ID it'll probably be ballpark 400 AUD per journey (eg. CGK-MCT-LHR).