OneWorld RTW Question

[JohnK]

serfty's routing should also maximise the SC's in economy, or close to maximum. The selection of some north-american 2-class flights to get first class and the SCs for first will distort slightly but not by much.

Note that the routes to maximise SCs is different to the route to maximise earning - because SC earning is not dependent on airline but point earning is (differing minimum points and elite bonuses).

You are quite right. Thanks.

I didn't realise that in the US most routes are 2-class flights and therefore you get SC's for first class. So if I did my routing in business I may also come close to the 2300 SC's.

I understand about maximising SC's and points as well. In business all ff points acrual across the airlines I think is pretty similar but in economy is where the problem occurs with AA earning 0.5, BA earning 0.25 and CX now earning 0.5. So where possible I have included Finnair and Iberia which should be earning rate of 1 for economy and the rest is Qantas where the earning would be 1.25 (due to PS status).

Obviously QF to get to NRT, AA through to MIA, then IB to MAD,ATH, Finnair to CPH return, BA from ATH to LHR, then QF to HKG, mixture of CX and Finnair in SE Asia and return QF from NRT to SYD. This routing I am working on is over 50,000 miles so with correct airline usage as per above should be able to get 470 SC's in economy and almost 47,000 qff points. Business is a totally different kettle of fish more SC's and qff points but more $$$ as well.

 

[Mal]

Thanks guys.

Some interesting points that I will take on board! The only *real* thing I have to do on this flight is to be in LHR by 29/30th March.

The things that I want to do are the following:

1) Visit YVR, LAX, SFO, LAS, JFK, NRT, DXB and maybe HEL
2) Visit the Boeing Factory in SEA (Not too sure if I can arrange this with my flights and available time)
3) Be in LAX somewhere between 20th and 30th March. (optional)

By the end of it though, want as many SC's as I can gather (but still remaining sane assuming Im in Y!) and would like to see some new and different places.

I think with the HEL flight difficulties and a wish to get a few more SC's out of the journey, this might go back to the drawing board for a little tweaking. Thanks for the suggestions guys, I will get there eventually!!

 

[cpl]

I think with the HEL flight difficulties and a wish to get a few more SC's out of the journey, this might go back to the drawing board for a little tweaking. Thanks for the suggestions guys, I will get there eventually!!

Drawing board is good! Anyone an interesting idea for the first part of a DONE4 in business class departing from MEL in early February and arriving in FRA in mid February? I need about 700 SC I'd like to keep FRA - MEL (then via US) until end of next year. Possible at all? 8)

 

[JohnK]

Drawing board is good! Anyone an interesting idea for the first part of a DONE4 in business class departing from MEL in early February and arriving in FRA in mid February? I need about 700 SC I'd like to keep FRA - MEL (then via US) until end of next year. Possible at all? 8)

Your DONE4 is valid for 12 months I think. So it is possible if you stayed in FRA until the end of next year and then continued on with your journey through US. You can get the 700 SC's going to FRA by scheduling your 4 segments in SE Asia, eg SIN-HKG, SIN-BKK, BKK-HKG etc before proceeding to FRA.

If you don't want to stay in FRA until the end of the year then you will have to purchase a return ticket back to MEL and continue on with DONE4 when ready.

There are other options but they wouldn't give you the 700 SC's you need now.

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

There's a few options of course.

Intra-SWP flights could be done at start or end of trip.

Visit asia en route to europe, or take single flight number to LHR/FRA to save asia for the way back from the us. If visit asia en route to europe, still have the option of transiting asia (under 24 hours) on the way back from the us.

Intra-europe flights could be before and/or after FRA stop.

On a DONE4 it should be easily possible to have 700 SCs up to FRA and another 1200 SCs after. If 1400 SCs needed after FRA then that will be harder.

 

[Dave Noble]

I think with the HEL flight difficulties and a wish to get a few more SC's out of the journey, this might go back to the drawing board for a little tweaking. Thanks for the suggestions guys, I will get there eventually!!

Drawing board is good! Anyone an interesting idea for the first part of a DONE4 in business class departing from MEL in early February and arriving in FRA in mid February? I need about 700 SC I'd like to keep FRA - MEL (then via US) until end of next year. Possible at all? 8)

The 1st main suggestion for a DONE4 (imo) is to start it in BKK and use some FF miles to get a flight to BKK. That way you save a cpl of thousand $ (base fare ex AU = approx $9609 vs ex TH = $6888 , saving $2721 ) plus will have more useful flight options for use in SWP rather than having to suffer the restrictions of continent-of-origin in SWP

Dave

 

[serfty]

... serfty's routing should also maximise the SC's in economy, or close to maximum. The selection of some north-american 2-class flights to get first class and the SCs for first will distort slightly but not by much.

Note that the routes to maximise SCs is different to the route to maximise earning - because SC earning is not dependent on airline but point earning is (differing minimum points and elite bonuses).

A LONE4 on the routing I worked out with Kiwi Flyer would earn 525 SC's. It totals 61,975 miles.

If it was all in D class, the base SC's for the DONE4 would have been 2100, however the 6 NA segments on AA are all in A class and will earn another 260 SC's.

I'm fitting in a visits to SEA, LAX, ANC, DFW & NYC like this: -LAX-DFW-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-. It's important that four of these segments are over 1,200 and hence earn 120 SC's. The ANC segments earn 150 SC's each.

 

[JohnK]

A LONE4 on the routing I worked out with Kiwi Flyer would earn 525 SC's. It totals 61,975 miles.

If it was all in D class, the base SC's for the DONE4 would have been 2100, however the 6 NA segments on AA are all in A class and will earn another 260 SC's.

I'm fitting in a visits to SEA, LAX, ANC, DFW & NYC like this: -LAX-DFW-SEA-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-. It's important that four of these segments are over 1,200 and hence earn 120 SC's. The ANC segments earn 150 SC's each.

OK that sounds very good.

Mine is only a first draft and at 470 SC's, on my own, it is not too bad. As explained earlier my constraints were to avoid as much as possible BA, AA and CX if flying in economy due to reduced points. If flying in Business then no constraints and I could probably increase SC's. But I would like to visit the places I selected in US and Europe.

Thanks for the tips both serfty and Kiwi Flyer. I will keep revising until I find one that fits perfectly. Then all I have to do is finish this 2-3 week contract that started last May. :roll:

 

[cpl]

The 1st main suggestion for a DONE4 (imo) is to start it in BKK and use some FF miles to get a flight to BKK. That way you save a cpl of thousand $ (base fare ex AU = approx $9609 vs ex TH = $6888 , saving $2721 ) plus will have more useful flight options for use in SWP rather than having to suffer the restrictions of continent-of-origin in SWP

I thought about the famous positioning flight to BKK but it's basically a business trip, thus to be booked through one of our nominated -local- travel agents What's possible is eg flying to FRA and returning to MEL using points; then getting back to FRA again on points, and continuing...