Pickpocketed in Bangkok: by Qantas

FlyingScotsman

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Good morning fellow QF travellers,

I'm going public about a severe mishandling by Qantas after initially giving them a month to resolve. (Mod's - please shift to another forum if appropriate)

My story begins with an invitation to attend a conference in Bangkok. The organiser arranged the CHC-SYD-BKK return booking via a travel agency. Flights were all on QF operated metal in Y, with the inbound flights fully flexible. Travel dates were dep Tue 04FEB, ret Fri 07FEB. I flew to BKK on the 04FEB as scheduled.

On Thu 06FEB I called Qantas at 13:06 BKK time to request a change to my return flight from 07FEB to 06FEB as my wife was not well. Despite the tickets being booked through a travel agency, the QF agent took pity on me and confirmed I could change to dep 18:00 BKK time on Thu 06FEB for INR980 (NZD20.40), which I accepted. My Visa was charged at 13:37 BKK time and I was advised an updated e-ticket would be issued and emailed to me. My QF app already showed the new flights. (Note this is ~4 hours prior to the new departure time.)

I arrived at BKK airport at 15:00 BKK time on 06FEB. The new e-ticket was still not issued, so check-in staff at the Qantas counter called ticketing. I was asked to show the card I used to make the change. I handed the card to the staff member who was on the phone and speaking in Thai. He ended the call, passed my card back, informed me all was ok and e-tickets were issued. I was handed boarding passes and flew to SYD.

On arrival to SYD, I discovered to my horror that my Visa card had been charged AUD1900 by Qantas at 15:12 BKK time on 06FEB - this was the same time I was checked in at BKK airport.

Confused, I checked my email and saw a new booking had been issued by Qantas' SYD office. There were also duplicate bookings for exactly the same flight in my Qantas app - i.e. I was booked on the same flight twice, but under two active bookings. It seems that rather than issue the updated e-ticket for the original booking, an entirely new booking was created. The upshot being I 'missed' the flights on my original booking and used the new booking that had been generated without my knowledge.

Long story short: I was deceived into purchasing a new e-ticket by QF check-in staff at BKK and my Visa was charged without my knowledge or consent.

Qantas is telling me I need to go back to the travel agent and that I can't get a refund because I already travelled on the new booking (which, as stated above, I didn't know had been created until I landed in SYD). Qantas also advised me the new booking was made directly on its website (the updated e-ticket came via [email protected] in a format which I have never seen when booking via Qantas' consumer-facing website) - with the implication seemingly being that I booked the tickets myself instead of the actual fact that the QF check-in team went ahead and purchased the flights using my card. I have screenshots and files to support all of the above, but Qantas is taking no responsibility for what is ultimately theft.

If anyone has advice for how I should approach this, I'd be incredibly grateful.
 
Adding that I've been a frequent flyer since 2007, a QFF member since 2009 (most years gold or platinum) and travelled >150 flight legs per year at peak business travel insanity. I've never encountered a situation like this nor been so stuck for how to resolve it.
 
I'd be disputing the transaction with your credit card issuer.

Sorry this has happened, sounds like a terrible situation. Hopefully your wife has recovered quickly also.
Thanks @sudoer - I'm hoping Qantas will take responsibility for its contractors' deceptive actions. Otherwise, good suggestion to contact my bank.

My wife is fortunately much better, thank you!
 
Is there a reason you didn’t get the TA who booked the flights to change your ticket ?
Yes. The event organiser’s office team, who booked the ticket through their TA, was in a conference and I couldn’t reach them. Given time was of the essence, the ticket was fully flexi and I’m QFF Gold, I thought I’d try Qantas directly - they agreed to make the change and updated my booking. That’s really all that matters in this case in my opinion - offer and acceptance.
 
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Can you claim from the conference organisers? Strictly speaking, they should be the ones covering all costs of travel and accommodation. Ideally they should have been the ones amending the travel itinerary.
 
If you can get through to someone at Hobart I suspect they would look through the two booking histories and provide a refund. Otherwise just go via a disputed claim on the credit card
 
Can you claim from the conference organisers? Strictly speaking, they should be the ones covering all costs of travel and accommodation. Ideally they should have been the ones amending the travel itinerary.
I've got this in mind, too. I tried in earnest to reach the organiser to action the change for me (via their TA), but nobody was responding and the clock was ticking to make the 06FEB evening flight out of BKK. I thought I was good to go when Qantas changed my booking, my card was charged and the booking updated with the new flights in my QFF app. I don't know what went on in the background which caused the e-ticket to fail to be generated on time.
 
If you can get through to someone at Hobart I suspect they would look through the two booking histories and provide a refund. Otherwise just go via a disputed claim on the credit card
I'd like it to be that simple, I can only get through to a QF office that seems to be outside ANZ - and the conversations end up heavily scripted within whatever limited mandate that team gets
 
Can you claim from the conference organisers? Strictly speaking, they should be the ones covering all costs of travel and accommodation. Ideally they should have been the ones amending the travel itinerary.

It would be extremely unfair and dishonest to put it on them.

It is in no way their fault and they appear to have had no knowledge of this. As I understand it, the OP made his own changes directly with the airline, and the airline (or contractor) stuffed it up.
 
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Second question is was this 2 one way tickets or a return? I have it in my mind that making one half of a return flexi is a bit pointless as the most restrictive condition applies to the whole ticket. Which would mean a way higher fee would apply to change. Obviously that doesn’t excuse you being told otherwise initially or the charge effectively without your consent subsequently
 
Second question is was this 2 one way tickets or a return? I have it in my mind that making one half of a return flexi is a bit pointless as the most restrictive condition applies to the whole ticket. Which would mean a way higher fee would apply to change. Obviously that doesn’t excuse you being told otherwise initially or the charge effectively without your consent subsequently
Thanks for being interested and taking time to ask questions! It was a single return booking. The organiser gave me the courtesy of approving the flights before they were booked (via a screenshot) and I could see there were only fully flexi seats available on the BKK-SYD-CHC leg - hence the mixed class booking. It's for this reason that the Qantas agent I spoke to was able to effect the itinerary change for minimal cost (NZD20)
 

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