Qantas Orders Up To 36 Airbus A321 XLR Aircraft

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QANTAS GROUP UPDATES AIRBUS ORDER WITH EXTRA LONG RANGE A321

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Importantly, more narrow bodies coming to more long-distance destinations:

Qantas Group CEO, Alan Joyce said: “We already know the A320 is a great aircraft and this new variant can fly further and more efficiently than any other single aisle jet on the market. It can fly routes like Cairns-Tokyo or Melbourne-Singapore, which existing narrow-bodies can’t, and that changes the economics of lots of potential routes into Asia to make them not just physically possible but financially attractive.

 

[TheInsider]

lol 2024.....

 

[dajop]

Aah, great, narrow bodies on 8 hours sectors. Wonderful! Can't wait!

 

[Altair]

Aah, great, narrow bodies on 8 hours sectors. Wonderful! Can't wait!

Yep like the 50's to early 70's. But pitch was a lot more than now, but they only had recliners in the First class cabin.

 

[Pierre_a]

I wonder where they will be deployed - Jetstar or QF?

 

[DC3]

Is this the big QF announcement that we are waiting on. More/upgraded long-range narrow-bodies.

Maybe all can go to jetstar and keep away from QF?

 

[Flying Fox]

For me its all about the interiors. So long as they use the current J (maybe in a 1-1 layout) or Y with the same layout as their international birds, the A321XLR should be OK.

 

[TheInsider]

Is this the big QF announcement that we are waiting on. More/upgraded long-range narrow-bodies.

Maybe all can go to jetstar and keep away from QF?

No it's clearly not. Purchasing planes for the Qantas 'Group' isn't a Frequent Flyer change...

 

[DC3]

No it's clearly not. Purchasing planes for the Qantas 'Group' isn't a Frequent Flyer change...

Hallelujah . Good news.

Edit: But bad news for butts on long-range narrow-bodies.

 

[2infinity]

I wonder where they will be deployed - Jetstar or QF?

Jetstar is predominantly Airbus, so I'd suggest that is where they are going.

 

[AIRwin]

Jetstar is predominantly Airbus, so I'd suggest that is where they are going.

DPS?

 

[Daver6]

You'd have to think it's for J* given its only 10 new aircraft added to the order and 26 converted.

 

[DC3]

You'd have to think it's for J* given its only 10 new aircraft added to the order and 26 converted.

Something positive there.

 

[Himeno]

Jetstar is predominantly Airbus, so I'd suggest that is where they are going.

However, the existing A320 order is for Qantas Group. It could go anywhere. QF, QLink, JQ, 3K, BL or GK. The QF 737s are getting old and will need replacements soon. There are also some A320s at QLink.

 

[moa999]

2024 is first delivery for the 321XLR.

Was suggested on airliners.net that internal speculation is 12 JQAus, 12 QF and rest TBD

At a guess would allow thinner routes eg. PER-HKG,AKL and ADL-SIN,HKG,NRT and possibly additional frequencies or secondary cities in Japan from SYD, MEL, BNE

 

[eastwest101]

I'm still of the opinion that its a possibility that the long term plan is to take the 787-8's out of JQ service and return them back to service joining the B787-9s for QFi and even QFd leaving all of the Jetstar group as a solely A320/A321 NEO/XLR operation (essentially a single type operator). Once shiny new aircraft get old, tired and more expensive to maintain - back to mainline they go!

The black swan event is still going to be with everyone in the world not ordering widebodies, and attempting to fly everywhere more frequently with narrowbodies, is that this must result in a massive increase in the number of airframes and airspace congestion without the airport gates or pilots to fly them.

Unless airports and airlines can agree to build more cheap airport space, and airlines are prepared to allow pilot wages to start rising then I can't see how they are going to extricate themselves from this future quandry.

 

[DavidFlynn]

Airbus PR-issued art of A321XLR in QF strip, for those who fancy...

 

[jb747]

I wonder where they will be deployed - Jetstar or QF?

Joyce hasn't actually ordered anything for mainline and I doubt that anything as changed. Jetstar will get them.

My bet is that the quote will be along the lines of "the pilots wouldn't accept the wonderful EBA, so we're going to place the aircraft with Jetstar"....

 

[Flying Fox]

With all the A320's on order and the B737-Max issues, QF are in good place for some massive B737 discounts should they decide to go down that path next year when they are going to investigate the QF 737-800 replacements.

 

[ric_melb]

I'm trying to imagine the pleasure it will be on a narrow bodied jet, flying for 8 hours, with only three toilets!!