Qantas Rated Best Airline Program

[basic]

So it was on ACA but the guys were on there last week promoting their Website but this week was all about revealing the best programs in all the sectors. Both Virgin and Qantas featured but Qantas was rated the better.

Nice one. Here's the video: Best Loyalty Programs

-Me

 

[drewbles]

the DJ's Amex being best of the 'rewards' cards? Hardly. Has a "good earn at DJ's" sure but you need more points on their cards to get anything.

They're basing the QFF program on the store "over 1200 products to choose from".

They're not accounting for any *value* in these at all.

FlyBuys wins?

No respect for these guys straight up. Added the fact it was ACA..

Can I have those 5 minutes back?

 

[v8Statesman]

Can I have those 5 minutes back?

Dang! It's like a gruesome car crash you don't want to look at, but have to! That comment made me waste 5 minutes purely on " What is so bad with it?"

 

[samh004]

They're not accounting for any *value* in these at all.

I did think their reasoning was a little lax. To be fair, it was a short segment, but their choices didn't seem all that good.

 

[capitaljus]

Hey guys,

Justin here from Perkler. Perkler's focus is on retail brands - the cards that take up most of the space in people's wallets and the programs that offer substantial benefit to people in terms of savings. So the tack we took on this ACA story was which programs are best because they give good retail benefits.

The Qantas store is pretty solid and for the vast majority of people who won't use their points for more travel that merchandise option is pretty cool.

Once Perkler grows even more we'll have an even more detailed sense of the best programs - based on what people from all kinds of loyalty areas think.

Appreciate the feedback though - any thoughts on what you guys think are the best programs will be happily fed back into the Perkler community.

cheers
Jus

 

[NM]

Welcome to AFF, Justin.

The Qantas store is pretty solid and for the vast majority of people who won't use their points for more travel that merchandise option is pretty cool.

Interesting view on the "vast majority". Certainly in this community I would expect the "vast majority" will not use their Qantas FF points for merchandise, but plan to use them for award flights and upgrades. Mind you, there have been several people frustrated with not being able to find award flight availability and turning to merchandise as a means to spending the points they have accrued.

I personally only use my Qantas FF points for flight upgrades. I have upgraded two HKG-BNE flights in the last month for 40,000 points each.

Appreciate the feedback though - any thoughts on what you guys think are the best programs will be happily fed back into the Perkler community

As far as FF programs go, I personally have gained much more value from AAdvantage than I did from Qantas - and I have earned over 2,000,000 QF FF points from flying over the years (plus some I moved there from credit cards). Currently my only source of QF FF points is Woolworths Everyday Rewards. All my flights now get booked against my AA FF account, which I use to redeem award flights for significantly better value than QF award flight redemptions. In about 3 years of using AAdvantage I have earned around 800,000 miles, almost all from flying. My Amex points will likely be laundered through SPG to AA.

But as is always the case, this works for my situation, travel and spending patterns and may not apply to other people. Or as we say around here, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary).

 

[v8Statesman]

Some great points there NM.

My personal opinion is that Perkler and AFF are targeting very different markets. This web site I would think has no relevance to "John Q Public"

I think what we do here, will not interest the masses, as aposed to what Perkler is offering.

 

[QF WP]

Wholeheartedly agree with your comments, NM and v8Statesman. We (at this Community and others like it) are certainly not the masses and know how to use the points to gain best value.

 

[drewbles]

Wholeheartedly agree with your comments, NM and v8Statesman. We (at this Community and others like it) are certainly not the masses and know how to use the points to gain best value.

That's why this feedback is great for Justin/Perkler I suppose.

The QFF store is *shocking* value in terms of reasoning points per dollar value. Most people may not realise this so yes, would just use it. Based on 'selection' of options available for points burn, the QFF store is large. It's just not good value.

I see AFF/FT being prime places for Justin to learn how to show people how to get better use of their points. Keeping in mind, there's no real way (short of Amex-SPG-AA) to earn AA points easily here, short of flying.

Mind you, trying to find that elusive F/J flight for anyone who's not SG/WP is going to be near impossible without a lot of flexibility anyway.

 

[NM]

Keeping in mind, there's no real way (short of Amex-SPG-AA) to earn AA points easily here, short of flying.

That's why they call it a Frequent Flyer program

 

[ANstar]

lol they also said FLybuys was still up there with the best....

So take it all with a grain of salt.

 

[capitaljus]

Thanks again for the dialogue guys - the feedback has been beneficial.

You are all correct in the sense that our members and those of AFF are different. When we set up Perkler we deliberately stayed away from the points for flights arena and focussed on retail because sites like AFF already have that covered.

Our members are people who are more likely to have acquired points in a one-off family trip OS and are more interested in cashing them in on a coffee machine (instant benefit) than waiting for the next OS trip in five years time.

So - different markets (also the kind of market that are happy to get their FlyBuys accumulating in purchasing they make anyway and get the case of wine).

Obviously 'value' is different for different people, but the $4000 annual saving by using loyalty cards is pretty substantial for lots of people at the moment and certainly (though oversimplified) the ACA approach rang true with lots and lots of people.

My mum liked seeing me on telly too