Qantas red e-deal ticket

[Lyss]

I'm travelling from Melbourne to London on a Qantas red e-deal ticket, which I've been told is an economy N, O or Q class ticket. I was hoping to upgrade to business class using points but was told that isn't possible. Am I able to upgrade to an economy ticket that is not a N, O or Q class ticket?

 

[Dave Noble]

This will depend on the rules of the fare that you have purchased

It may be possible depending on the fare. Best to ask Qantas Reservations

Welcome to AFF

Dave

 

[opusman]

Also bear in mind that unless you have some status with Qantas (Gold or above) your chances of getting said upgrade are pretty negligible.

 

[serfty]

MOST tickets with Qantas in "Deep Discount" economy (AKA, NOQ Classes) can be upgraded to a higher "class" Economy fare (that is eligible for award upgrades with an additional penalty. As Dave Noble posted it depends upon the rules of your ticket:

1. Whether this can be done (probably so) and
2. How much of a penalty needs to be paid. (I'm guessing a minimum of $150 per pax)

Note that any penalty would be on top of any fare difference!

 

[Evan]

If you give us the dates & flight numbers we can also check for you how much availability there may be on the routes and fligths you will take. You may find that all business seats are already sold (hence no upgrades likely unless some business last minute pull out or upgrade to F).

I say this because a lot of these flights are booked solid (like next week almost every day is totally full !)

E

 

[Travel Guru]

Yes you can upgrade it, you'll need to pay the fare difference plus $38.50 to reissue.

It's probably worth checking there are upgrade seats first which can be done by logging into qantas.com.au frequent flyer profile.

TG

 

[Dave Noble]

Yes you can upgrade it, you'll need to pay the fare difference plus $38.50 to reissue.

It's probably worth checking there are upgrade seats first which can be done by logging into qantas.com.au frequent flyer profile.

TG

The rules for international tickets are different to those for domestic. For the upgrade, need to enter the upgrade lottery

Dave

 

[serfty]

Bookings - Fare Types

Any change would cost a lot more than $38.50:

...

• This fare may be used as credit towards the payment of any higher fare from the point of origin, provided the new fare conditions are met. A cancellation fee of A$100 per person applies. If the new fare is cancelled the original fare cancellation conditions will apply. This credit must be used within 12 months of the original tickets date of issue.

...

• A booking fee of A$50 per passenger will apply for bookings made through Qantas Telephone Sales, Airports and Qantas Travel outlets.

...

A minimum of $100 + fare difference + $50 booking fee per passenger.

 

[Evan]

Being Platinum QFF i have managed to avoid re-booking fees a number of times but i am guessing that the OP is not of such status.
Still comes back to what i was saying before, check the availability first before even considering it.

Just looking at some random dates in August going to LHR seems to be plenty of J,C,D,I etc

If i look going back the other way i see some days like this...
F2 A1 J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 T0... Y0 etc Really busy flights... then again on the 31/7 a week ago my flight was all 0, but now some premium cabin is open, but no Y

Difficult route to get upgrades from my expereince. (have had a few so by no means impossible, just not all that common because i travel peak times)

E

 

[JohnK]

MOST tickets with Qantas in "Deep Discount" economy (AKA, NOQ Classes) can be upgraded to a higher "class" Economy fare (that is eligible for award upgrades with an additional penalty. As Dave Noble posted it depends upon the rules of your ticket:

1. Whether this can be done (probably so) and
2. How much of a penalty needs to be paid. (I'm guessing a minimum of $150 per pax)

Note that any penalty would be on top of any fare difference!

Am I right in assuming that if you want to change a flight or booking class, or even cancelling a red e-deal and re-booking new flight, then the new flight or booking class has to have a higher airfare than the original airfare?

 

[serfty]

Am I right in assuming that if you want to change a flight or booking class, or even cancelling a red e-deal and re-booking new flight, then the new flight or booking class has to have a higher airfare than the original airfare?

It depends on the original fare rules - e.g. "the same as or higher" or simply "higher".

 

[JohnK]

It depends on the original fare rules - e.g. "the same as or higher" or simply "higher".

I thought with all red e-deals it had to be a higher fare class.

 

[serfty]

I thought with all red e-deals it had to be a higher fare class.

There are differences, especially betwixt domestic and international.

 

[Lyss]

I ended up finding that it would cost $800 ea to upgrade to non N, O or Q class - because of terms, conditions etc. Unfortunately we don't have that much money to spare one one flight! 24 hrs in economy is going to hurt.. :shock:

 

[wandering_fred]

[sales pitch]
To the OP - you might want to search the various AFF (and flyertalk) threads as to why quite a number of us (planning at least annual trips) base their ticketing in Singapore.

Hint in your case: BA WT+ exSIN is much more reasonably priced than ex Australia and almost all BA/QF economy tickets are V class or higher
[ end sales pitch ]

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[JohnK]

Unfortunately we don't have that much money to spare one one flight! 24 hrs in economy is going to hurt.. :shock:

Not great news but you have saved money, the hurt will be forgotten in a few days and also not the end of the world. Just think of all the people who have never travelled business class and do not even know it esists....