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I get this message everytime I try to go to the Qantas website:What does this mean??


Error 404--Not Found

From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1:

10.4.5 404 Not Found

The server has not found anything matching the Request-URI. No indication is given of whether the condition is temporary or permanent.
If the server does not wish to make this information available to the client, the status code 403 (Forbidden) can be used instead. The 410 (Gone) status code SHOULD be used if the server knows, through some internally configurable mechanism, that an old resource is permanently unavailable and has no forwarding address.

 
That message was popping up all day yesterday, and also this morning for me. But a refresh fixes it, so not sure what it’s about.
 
A 404 comes up for a multitude of reasons. Simple explanation is "sorry I cannot find the page you are looking for". Could be maintenance on the web site, a DNS/routing problem etc. etc. HTTP messages are not always very helpful....... They don't have one as vague as "we apologise for the late departure of this flight which was due to the late arrival of the incoming flight" though. :)
 
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A 404 comes up for a multitude of reasons. Simple explanation is "sorry I cannot find the page you are looking for". Could be maintenance on the web site, a DNS/routing problem etc. etc. HTTP messages are not always very helpful....... They don't have one as vague as "we apologise for the late departure of this flight which was due to the late arrival of the incoming flight" though. :)

404 is a page not found error. 404 will only appear when the requested file on the web server cannot be found. If you're interested in standard apache web server errors, check out The APACHE Server Error Codes
 
In the case of the Qantas site there is a bit more going on. Normally Qantas will just return a generic 404 error page, with Qantas logo etc.

A normal 404 response would not ordinarily start quoting RFC documentation at you, as was the case the other day (and in the OP's post). Yes - all that text was being returned from the QF website.
 
In the case of the Qantas site there is a bit more going on. Normally Qantas will just return a generic 404 error page, with Qantas logo etc.

A normal 404 response would not ordinarily start quoting RFC documentation at you, as was the case the other day (and in the OP's post). Yes - all that text was being returned from the QF website.

I often get the error and have to start again from the homepage.

As most/all of the site is dymanic, there are no 'real' files. So I figure the 404 error is the web servers response to the content system failing to generate the page.

I too have reported it a few times, but as a user, it is easier to give up. You would think someone would fix it up, atleast with a meaningful error.
 
In the case of the Qantas site there is a bit more going on. Normally Qantas will just return a generic 404 error page, with Qantas logo etc.

A normal 404 response would not ordinarily start quoting RFC documentation at you, as was the case the other day (and in the OP's post). Yes - all that text was being returned from the QF website.

404 pages are very configurable. Often, it'll be in conjunction with borked SQL queries or php type actions, so it's quite possible it would 'spew' information at you.
 
Both. 404 means file not found. The file not found may be due to a php or sql fault. Layered errors are quite normal for web servers.

As stealth originally stated. There are a multitude of reasons it can occur.

(not sure how much PHP is involved on the Qantas website)
 
As stealth originally stated. There are a multitude of reasons it can occur.

(not sure how much PHP is involved on the Qantas website)

DNS and Routing problems will not cause a 404. If a server is not reachable, it is not able to produce a 404 error.

Web Server error codes are pretty discrete. They're not 'multiple'. a 404 is a 404. A 410 is a 410. Internal server errors (501) are more commonly associated with borked sql, but it's not always the case. I suggest reading the RFC on error codes :)
 
DNS and Routing problems will not cause a 404. If a server is not reachable, it is not able to produce a 404 error.

Web Server error codes are pretty discrete. They're not 'multiple'. a 404 is a 404. A 410 is a 410. Internal server errors (501) are more commonly associated with borked sql, but it's not always the case. I suggest reading the RFC on error codes :)

There is what the RFC's say (or what you think is says), and then there is what happens in the real world. What masquerades as a 404 to the user can hide a multitude of sins. And directly from RFC2616:)

This status code is commonly used when the server does not wish to
reveal exactly why the request has been refused, or when no other
response is applicable.

So even the RFC recognises there is more to it!
 
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