QANTIM - Qantas Itinerary Manager, from November 2002

[SeatBackForward]

I was going through some old work files. Lo and behold what did I find? the QANTIM Application from November 2002.

There have been a couple of older (and now locked) posts about this:
2012 by @eric2011 - QANTIM travel planner by Qantas

and

2014 by @albatross710 Qantim

And yes it installs onto my Win11 PC today! See screenshots below. Though after installing and launching, it defaulted to search for itineraries for todays date, needless to say, it didn't show up as I doubt QF was forecasting timetables 22yrs into the future, but searching for Nov'2002 did produce some results.







But it does only work for direct flights, if searching for others this is the warning that appears:



If @admin wants to make the application available on AFF, happy to send the file - It's less than 1MB!

 

[SYD]

I still have a copy of it (might even be on my current desktop). I used to use it for trip planning. It worked a little bit like an offline version of TripIt. I’d collate stuff and print it out.

 

[RichardMEL]

OMG! That takes me back!

Pity it was pretty useless lol

 

[yachty]

I remember playing around with this when I was a kid. Totally forgot about it!

 

[DejaBrew]

Wow! That’s a blast from the past!!

 

[SYD]

I remember playing around with this when I was a kid. Totally forgot about it!

Well that just made me feel old….

 

[SYD]

OMG! That takes me back!

Pity it was pretty useless lol

Years ago, not long after being a kid…I created a travel history .itn to show the map with routes flown. It got pretty messy after a while…

 

[AIRwin]

But it does only work for direct flights, if searching for others this is the warning that appears:

Ironically the example (Perth to London) in the warning about direct flight information is now a direct flight itself

 

[Mattg]

This is pretty cool!

@SeatBackForward would you mind doing a few searches on QANTIM for me if I give you the routes/dates? There are a few flights I took in the early 2000s where I know the route and date I flew, but not the flight number/aircraft/schedule/etc. I'd be interested to find out that info.

 

[serfty]

I used it from about 1995 to 2005.

It is possible I have some old data from it.

 

[SYD]

This is pretty cool!

@SeatBackForward would you mind doing a few searches on QANTIM for me if I give you the routes/dates? There are a few flights I took in the early 2000s where I know the route and date I flew, but not the flight number/aircraft/schedule/etc. I'd be interested to find out that info.

I just checked and I do indeed have it on my desktop. 2011 version (possibly the last release). Looks like I captured trips up until Covid in it. The map view is VERY busy now when I open that .itn file.

I probably have older copies of the installation file stashed away somewhere.

@Mattg Feel free to PM me with details and I’ll see what it coughs up.

 

[RealtimeY]

@Mattg For some retro data, the Wayback Machine actually did archive the Qantas PDF timetable when it still existed (use the timeline along the top):

https://web.archive.org/web/20031010073826/http://www.qantas.com.au/flightinfo/qf_pdfTimetable.pdf


In fact, it archived Qantim as well for all to access
Flight Info - Timetable - Qantim

 

[SYD]

In fact, it archived Qantim as well for all to access
Flight Info - Timetable - Qantim

Curious, that link says last updated Apr 2004 which could be correct for the app but my running version says 2011. Which might just be the underlying DB file?

 

[RealtimeY]

I linked to a snapshot of the 2004 version. You can browse all the way to a 2011 version as well.

And while we're here...it seems there was a similar program for the oneworld timetable under "desktop version". Would someone like to give it a go?
https://web.archive.org/web/2011070...ld.com/ow/flight-info/downloadable-timetables

 

[SYD]

I linked to a snapshot of the 2004 version. You can browse all the way to a 2011 version as well.

And while we're here...it seems there was a similar program for the oneworld timetable under "desktop version". Would someone like to give it a go?
https://web.archive.org/web/2011070...ld.com/ow/flight-info/downloadable-timetables

Oh, I might have that OW desktop version somewhere also. I’d forgotten about that. The website and phone apps replaced it years ago.

 

[SeatBackForward]

This is pretty cool!

@SeatBackForward would you mind doing a few searches on QANTIM for me if I give you the routes/dates? There are a few flights I took in the early 2000s where I know the route and date I flew, but not the flight number/aircraft/schedule/etc. I'd be interested to find out that info.

Yeah sure, happy to look for it, but I think the version I have only starts from Nov'02 onwards and only until 2003, I couldn't find anything earlier or much later. I can't recall how (if at all) the database of schedules was updated.

Post automatically merged: Sep 19, 2024

I just checked and I do indeed have it on my desktop. 2011 version (possibly the last release)

From what I can see, it wasn't connecting to the internet to update the flight schedules. Not sure how it was kept upto date as the help links to tutorials etc no longer work

 

[SYD]

From what I can see, it wasn't connecting to the internet to update the flight schedules. Not sure how it was kept upto date as the help links to tutorials etc no longer work

Yeah, after I posted that I recall it was a complete version update / download. Probably in parallel with those printed Timetable booklets (and later PDF versions).

I reckon I have older versions somewhere….

 

[SeatBackForward]

Yeah, after I posted that I recall it was a complete version update / download. Probably in parallel with those printed Timetable booklets (and later PDF versions).

This sounds correct. There is a datafile that gets installed called "Tblsch.dbf" which can be opened in a spreadsheet to show11.5k rows of schedule related data that looks like this:



In this November'02 version I have the range of dates in the VALFROM and VALTO is 20-Nov-2002 to 21-NOV-2003, so there must be further releases where this table is updated.

 

[serfty]

This sounds correct. There is a datafile that gets installed called "Tblsch.dbf" which can be opened in a spreadsheet to show11.5k rows of schedule related data that looks like this:

View attachment 408054

In this November'02 version I have the range of dates in the VALFROM and VALTO is 20-Nov-2002 to 21-NOV-2003, so there must be further releases where this table is updated.

Yes, the entire package would download with each revision, not just the data.

 

[SYD]

Yes, the entire package would download with each revision, not just the data.

and only have 1 years Timetable from the effective date. The version I still have has 1 Oct 2011 to 30 Sep 2012. But it happy loads old .itn files I created for trips years ago (including flights, car hire, hotels etc).

I just realised that there's some info there missing from my TripIt trip history! Now that's going to waste an hour or so I wasn't planning....