qf/qantas link int'l link up baggage

[parsonstrish]

~ Before travel, check the baggage allowances with the applicable carrier. This includes codeshare partner flights, that is, flights with a QF number operated by another carrier.
^ If your itinerary includes a flight to/from or via the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada, you are entitled to two pieces (one piece for infants) of checked baggage on all Qantas and QantasLink operated flights within your itinerary,# regardless of whether these flights appear on the same or a separate ticket. You will be required to provide proof of your international ticket at check-in indicating travel to/from or via the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada.
# Valid for the duration of your international ticket, or up to a maximum of 12 months from the date of the first flight to/from the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada – whichever date falls first.

I was browsing through baggage allowance for upcoming trip tomorrow on qantas link to bne, then qf bne-cairns.

If I am reading this correctly, when I returned from the states in Jan. arrival bne. then two days later flew out from bne. on qantaslink on a connected booking, why did the ck.-in person @ bne. say she made allowances for my two suitcases (they were each within the allowed limit) but had to charge me for my carry on. Admittedly I think the carry on was more than 4kg. but less than 8kg.

My query is, wasn't I entitled to the two bags coming in from states two days previously without saying she had made allowances for the 2 suitcases?

I know that you are only allowed one suitcase on qantaslink. But changes with int'l travel/from US and two allowded.

I'm confused.
cheers

 

[NM]

What do you mean by the words "on a connected booking". Was it on the same PNR or the same e-ticket receipt? Of did you make two independent bookings and later have them "linked"? For the baggage allowance to be consistent through the flights, they must be on the same itinerary, which normally means booked at the same time and on the same e-ticket receipt and if both are Qantas flights they should be on the same booking reference number (PNR).

 

[parsonstrish]

you are correct, i forgot i had booked two separate ticketing, the int'l was on one ticketing and domestic on another, sorry.

 

[JohnK]

What do you mean by the words "on a connected booking". Was it on the same PNR or the same e-ticket receipt? Of did you make two independent bookings and later have them "linked"? For the baggage allowance to be consistent through the flights, they must be on the same itinerary, which normally means booked at the same time and on the same e-ticket receipt and if both are Qantas flights they should be on the same booking reference number (PNR).

If I am reading the terms and conditions correctly travel does not need to be on the same ticket/itinerary.

If your itinerary includes a flight to/from or via the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada, you are entitled to two pieces (one piece for infants) of checked baggage on all Qantas and QantasLink operated flights within your itinerary,# regardless of whether these flights appear on the same or a separate ticket. You will be required to provide proof of your international ticket at check-in indicating travel to/from or via the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada.
# Valid for the duration of your international ticket, or up to a maximum of 12 months from the date of the first flight to/from the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada – whichever date falls first.
* Total dimensions are measured by adding together the width, height and depth of the bag.

 

[NM]

If I am reading the terms and conditions correctly travel does not need to be on the same ticket/itinerary.

It has to be the one itinerary. That usually means same ticket, but in some circumstances an itinerary may be split over more than one ticket. But that would normally only be when two different airlines are involved. For example I once had a single itinerary that involved a Qantas e-ticket BNE-SIN and a MH paper ticket SIN-KUL. The fare was a BNE-KUL fare valid for travel on QF/MH/SQ, but due to the e-ticket limitations of MH at the time it had to be issued as two tickets. But was still considered one itinerary.

but if you purchase two tickets independently you cannot argue that its a single itinerary. Otherwise I could say all my flights following my last USA visit are the same itinerary, just with stopovers in BNE and hence claim the piece system for baggage allowance.

The OP has already confirmed it was two separate tickets with a stopover between USA return and Qantaslink flight, so it would be very hard to prove its a single itinerary. Also note the validity period is only for the duration of the international ticket, which expired on arrival into BNE and 2 days before the domestic flight was commenced.

 

[JohnK]

It has to be the one itinerary.

After reading the terms and conditions again it makes sense that travel needs to be on the one itinerary.

I am almost certain that I read exactly what I wanted to read when I read the terms and conditions earlier.

 

[serfty]

The reality is that with the way it is worded and when checking in with Qantas; if you have at least one transpacific flight on a ticket originating overseas within 12 months before or after then you can check 2 'pcs' at any time.

 

[Dave Noble]

The reality is that with the way it is worded and when checking in with Qantas; if you have at least one transpacific flight on a ticket originating overseas within 12 months before or after then you can check 2 'pcs' at any time.

The way it is worded is exactly in line with NMs description

Dave

 

[serfty]

OK,

Say on April 1 I fly on a ticket from LAX to SYD booked in conjunction with a return flight on September 30, SYD-LAX.

Given that wording, any flight I take in Oz during that time can be considered part of my international itinerary based on the LAX-SYD-LAX booking!

 

[Dave Noble]

OK,

Say on April 1 I fly on a ticket from LAX to SYD booked in conjunction with a return flight on September 30, SYD-LAX.

Given that wording, any flight I take in Oz during that time can be considered part of my international itinerary based on the LAX-SYD-LAX booking!

It isn't part of the single itinerary. They are independant itineraries

1 itinerary can consist of multiple tickets
multiple itineraries do not bake one itinerary

Dave

 

[serfty]

... but if you purchase two tickets independently you cannot argue that its a single itinerary. Otherwise I could say all my flights following my last USA visit are the same itinerary, just with stopovers in BNE and hence claim the piece system for baggage allowance. ....

There is no need to argue; Qantas lay the criteria out clearly. See below.

It isn't part of the single itinerary. They are independant itineraries

1 itinerary can consist of multiple tickets
multiple itineraries do not bake one itinerary

Dave

Sorry, Dave, we will have to agree to disagree on that one. (we have been down this path on this topic before before.)

It ALL goes back to the wording ...

If your itinerary includes a flight to/from or via the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada, you are entitled to two pieces (one piece for infants) of checked baggage on all Qantas and QantasLink operated flights within your itinerary,# regardless of whether these flights appear on the same or a separate ticket. You will be required to provide proof of your international ticket at check-in indicating travel to/from or via the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada.
# Valid for the duration of your international ticket, or up to a maximum of 12 months from the date of the first flight to/from the USA, US Territories, Tahiti, South America or Canada – whichever date falls first.
* Total dimensions are measured by adding together the width, height and depth of the bag.

This very text makes any booking within the validity as specified "dependant".

Based on this, one could even start an xONEx routing Asia, EUR//NA, SWP, ASIA and could consider any flights taken in SWP during the xONEx's validity, whether on the same booking or not, to be part of "The one Itinerary".

 

[JohnK]

It ALL goes back to the wording ...
Based on this, one could even start an xONEx routing Asia, EUR//NA, SWP, ASIA and could consider any flights taken in SWP during the xONEx's validity, whether on the same booking or not, to be part of "The one Itinerary".

That was my understanding of the wording in the terms and conditions. It is open to interpretation and parsonstrish did mention the check-in agent made allowance for the 2 bags but charged extra for carry on baggage.

 

[NM]

That was my understanding of the wording in the terms and conditions. It is open to interpretation and parsonstrish did mention the check-in agent made allowance for the 2 bags but charged extra for carry on baggage.

parsonstrish's international ticket finished with the international arrival into BNE. The Qantaslink flight two days later could not be considered to be within the validity period of the international ticket, so serfty's example does not apply to them. The mention of being charged for the carry-on does seem strange, unless it was in excess of the Qantaslink carry-on allowance (size or weight) and as such had to be checked, making a third checked bag and hence charged.