QFF Reward ticket downgrade - an ongoing refund saga

theevilmuppet

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This story begins back in April, when I used a smattering of my QFF points balance to book a SYD-MEL flight for my mother in J to complete the return leg of her visit to the US.

To her horror, the particular flight underwent an equipment change (A330 to B737), obliterating the number (and quality) of seats in the Business Class cabin and relegating her to the unending suffering that is Economy (her words, not mine) for an entire 1 hour and 25 minutes!

Upon this horrific tale being relayed to me from the Qantas Business Lounge at Kingsford-Smith, my dear mother reminded me of the importance of clawing back the points difference given the terrible cost she had endured to her dignity. As I am absolutely terrified of my mother whilst she is in the midst of bracing herself for a journey in the middle seat on a narrowbody plane, I of course immediately commenced my pleadings to the frontline staff at Qantas.

And that's where things started badly, became worse and continue to descend into a farce.

On the day of the trip (in late May), I dispatched a missive to Qantas requesting that the point difference be credited to my account. This in-and-of-itself is an impost and should not be required given Qantas have all the information on-hand required to make this right without any external prompting, but I digress.

I received a response 2 days later indicating that the point difference would be deposited within 10 business days. As I'm sure is of no surprise to anyone continuing to read this attempt at a humourous retelling of this woeful saga, this did not happen.

Upon following up, I was told that my concerns would be "escalated" to the Qantas Frequent Flyer team - at this point at least one of the two staffers involved had displayed egregious indifference or apathetic ineptitude in their handling of an incredibly basic enquiry, but my absolutely minimal expectations were still clearly in excess of Qantas's capabilities.

Multiple follow up attempts have since occurred, with responses including:

  • "We don't see an issue here" - whilst referencing a PNR that I had neither flown nor booked
  • "Please call us" - directly contradicting earlier statements
  • "Please have your mother sign something indicating that you're allowed to look at this" - once again featuring an incorrect PNR and contradicting all earlier statements
All I am seeking is a return of the points difference. I'm at the point of sending registered mail to the CEO's office or booking a flight and raising chargebacks out of spite given the ridiculousness of this saga.
 
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Ah. I can see the problem:



Not helpful, I know, but may assist the learnings of anyone following along.
I missed that bit amongst the prose.

Agree this is why it’s proving difficult.
QF IT is a mess and the poor customer service compounds it.

Points refunds for domestic Award bookings downgraded are usually very straightforward IME.

@theevilmuppet I probably wouldn’t email the CEO to chase up 8400 points but that’s just my laziness.

I would get out of the death spiral that is this email trail and start again.

I booked a Classic Award Business class for my mother booking Ref ABCD. Cost 18400 QFF points plus tax from my QFF account #1234567

Due to an aircraft swap she was downgraded to Economy
An economy Award costs 10000 points plus taxes.

Please refund the difference of 8400 points to my QFF account #1234567 within 7 days of receipt of this email.
Attach the E-ticket and a screenshot of the BP if you have them.

QF do know how to make simple things, really hard. It’s appalling.
 
You can try lodging your complaint with Airline Customer Advocate.
Not sure of the results, but it's worth a try.
Thank you, fellow human!

I shall add this adjunct to this terrible tale!
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Ah. I can see the problem:



Not helpful, I know, but may assist the learnings of anyone following along.
It's worryingly helpful. Thank you for making the point.

This really isn't that hard - transactions aren't difficult to grok.
 
I missed that bit amongst the prose.

Agree this is why it’s proving difficult.
QF IT is a mess and the poor customer service compounds it.

Points refunds for domestic Award bookings downgraded are usually very straightforward IME.

@theevilmuppet I probably wouldn’t email the CEO to chase up 8400 points but that’s just my laziness.

I would get out of the death spiral that is this email trail and start again.

I booked a Classic Award Business class for my mother booking Ref ABCD. Cost 18400 QFF points plus tax from my QFF account #1235567

Due to an aircraft swap she was downgraded to Economy
An economy Award costs 10000 points plus taxes.

Please refund the difference of 8400 points to my QFF account #1234567 within 7 days of receipt of this email.
Attach the E-ticket and a screenshot of the BP if you have them.

QF do know how to make simple things, really hard. It’s appalling.
Your approach has merit.

That said, I intend to leverage the McAwfulness to extract recompense for my time, emotional suffering, enduring terrible grammar from the various respondents and stubborn principals.
 
I too had a similar tale - although not so eloquently expressed. MrsK and I were travelling CBR-MEL for a weekend away, booked using points, and there was a delay, and a delay and so on. We were called to the service desk at the lounge, and given new boarding passes. MrsK stayed in J, me back a few rows into Y. After the flight I used the web form to lodge a complaint and ask for the difference in points to be refunded. It took three months, and a few calls to sort out. I don't think emailing the CEO will get you anywhere.

The kicker was that the person sitting in J with MrsK had been upgraded into J without even asking for it. Something had seriously gone wrong with the IT that night.
 
To clarify; this booking had only the domestic flight, right? It wasn't an international + US flight on the same booking?
 

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