Rolling SC's for NB's - No Incentive to Fly Before My Review Date.

[robd]

I am NB with a review date of 31st October, 2012. I have travel booked with VA in August/Sept, so any other travel will be extremely limited. I am racking up the QFF points thanks to ATO payments and EDRCC. I thought I might take a little trip Mel - Bne to start off my status climb, but realised any SC's earned will drop off 31/10/12, so no reason to fly Q before then (based on SC only).

Why don't Qantas have rolling SC's, if only for NB's? Wouldn't this incentivise pax to fly more on Qantas, attain some status and then fly them more to try to retain any status achieved?

 

[samh004]

If you're earning so many points, have you considered a JASA, take a couple before your review date and you might be brushing up against Gold rather than Silver...

I would be very upset if QF changed to rolling review dates.

As it is, you can earn silver now, and keep it till your review date, and then another year beyond that. How is that not worthwhile?


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[robd]

If you're earning so many points, have you considered a JASA, take a couple before your review date and you might be brushing up against Gold rather than Silver...

I would be very upset if QF changed to rolling review dates.

As it is, you can earn silver now, and keep it till your review date, and then another year beyond that. How is that not worthwhile?


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Not enough points yet for couple of JASA's, nor enough time as I will OS for a month. I am not suggesting rolling review date, just that SC's should roll until you reach a status.

 

[nonpop]

I am racking up the QFF points thanks to ATO payments and EDRCC ... Why don't Qantas have rolling SC's, if only for NB's? Wouldn't this incentivise pax to fly more on Qantas, attain some status and then fly them more to try to retain any status achieved?

IMHO QF want us all to 'purchase' points and not airline tix.
Remember QF (Group) is a Frequent Flyer Program with an airline attached - and more often that airline is Orange and not Red

 

[airbridge]

I would like QF to remain with current annual review but allow you to carry over unused credits to the following year. I know that means people could take 2 years to earn a status that others took one year to achieve which might not be fair, but they could allow you to carry over unused credits for say 3 months.sometimes you get into a situation where you miss out by a month or two.

 

[Awesom Andy]

I think no matter how they change (or not change) the system, there will always be a group of people complaining that they've just missed out on a status.

 

[richie9x]

Even under a rolling date scheme some people will benefit and some people will be disadvantaged. For instance under a rolling deadline scheme if you qualify early with a lot of flights. There is not a lot of incentive to keep flying as far as retaining status goes. You would actually be better off if you were able to defer any up coming flights until 6 months time.

If you do fairly consistent frequent flying then a set calendar scheme or a rolling calendar scheme work out the same.

They could come up with a complex set of rules that tried to be fair to everyone. Personally I think a set calendar works fine.

For the OP if status is what matters to you then yes in your situation it does makes sense to defer you travel until the start of you QFF year.

 

[Mwenenzi]

Why don't Qantas have rolling SC's, if only for NB's? Wouldn't this incentivise pax to fly more on Qantas, attain some status and then fly them more to try to retain any status achieved?

If you cannot achieve silver in 365 days you are not a frequent flyer nor likely to be one. End of story !
Diluting the status levels benefits no one (So say I as a humble QF bronze but former plat)

 

[777]

I would probably be gold at least in QFF if they had a rolling 12 month qualification window. As it stands my review date falls awkwardly between when I hit double plat on VA and when it rolls over again. I have a three or four month window when I could easily hit QF gold but the rigidity of the dates means effectively two two month windows which are useless to me.

 

[amaroo]

The lounges are overflowing as it is......I like the current system, earn or burn.

 

[Simo]

I guess then we could have many status flyers who make a few flights a year and the QP' would be even fuller that they are already.

Even if your WP and you have reached your SC's and can not make P1 no reason to fly if you don't have to.

When i got WP i slowed the travel down for the last mont or 2 and then pushed hard again start of the next SC year.

 

[Robert Qld]

I'd personally just like to have credits earnt in the dying weeks to roll over.

My anniversary date is the 31st of May and due to having to fly to Manchester the week before for a rugby tournament I was participating in (unfortunately no flexibility at all there) I earnt credits for three international flights only to lose them less then a week later. Now that definately bites! lol

 

[robd]

I am NB with a review date of 31st October, 2012. I have travel booked with VA in August/Sept, so any other travel will be extremely limited. I am racking up the QFF points thanks to ATO payments and EDRCC. I thought I might take a little trip Mel - Bne to start off my status climb, but realised any SC's earned will drop off 31/10/12, so no reason to fly Q before then (based on SC only).

Why don't Qantas have rolling SC's, if only for NB's? Wouldn't this incentivise pax to fly more on Qantas, attain some status and then fly them more to try to retain any status achieved?

With all that I have learn't on this forum, I am just keen to put it into practise and see where I end up status wise. Disappointingly, there is no point trying until after 31st October 2012.

 

[harvyk]

Maybe something which could be implemented is the ability to request your review date is brought forwards. So as an example, if you have achieved 700SC's by the 1st of July, enough for SG, your review date is the 1st of August, and you have 400SC's worth of flying in July (eg a big trip, but not enough to push you into WP territory), it would be nice if you could request your review date becomes the 1st of July. It would mean that your SG expiration date is now the 1st July 2013, but it would also mean those 400SC's go towards your next years status.

It would mean that a badly timed flight's SC's are not wiped before you've had a genuine chance to use the SC's towards status. Surprisingly I doubt it would require that much coding to alter the QF systems to simply change a date (to a date 1 day in the future, that way all the automated processes do not need to be changed).

Just a thought, which could keep both sides of the debate happy. It won't allow someone to gain status who does not fly enough, but it will allow someone gain status who would have gotten it if it was not for a quirk with dates.

 

[Leumas]

Sorry, guys. So now, not only do we want QF to give us status as soon as you qualify, i.e., the remaining of your membership, PLUS the entire 12 months of your next membership year, you also want a discount towards the next year, be it to keep your 'new' status or the next level up?

It's worth mentioning that we already receive a discount when maintaining our current levels.

 

[777]

Sorry, guys. So now, not only do we want QF to give us status as soon as you qualify, i.e., the remaining of your membership, PLUS the entire 12 months of your next membership year, you also want a discount towards the next year, be it to keep your 'new' status or the next level up?

It's worth mentioning that we already receive a discount when maintaining our current levels.

Some of us have no status with QF and are potential customers. I am comparing them to the competition which uses a rolling 12 month review period. I find that system considerably better and the lack of it a reason why they won't be able to attract my business - because the timing of my qualification year is wrong. It may be of no signficance to QF but it does have real consequences for winning market share.