Status Credits on Classic Reward Flights.

[shoziqff]

Hey guys!
Just wondering, I booked business classic flight reward couple months ago, and I recently reached Points Club status just a few weeks ago. And since one of the main benefits of Points Club is the eligibility to earn status credits on Qantas marketed Classic Flight Rewards, I was therefore wondering if my upcoming flight status credits will get reflected to my account? I currently have 0 status credits and I don't see any past activities in status credit activity history as shown below.
However, as I was navigating through my upcoming flight booking page, I noticed something different and it said that I was able to get status credits for my upcoming flights.
So my question is, will I be able to get these 96 credits mentioned in my Business Classic Flight reward booking, because I can't see any status credits being added to my account? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

You’ll get the status credits after completing your flight.

 

[shoziqff]

You’ll get the status credits after completing your flight.

Thanks for clarifying! I have another question:
So my dad recently bought a flight and he didn't know that I had a Frequent Flyer membership, so he used his Qantas frequent flyer member. Was wondering if we could change this flight to point to my Qantas frequent flyer membership, so that I can earn the status credits and points for that flight? Thanks

 

[AIRwin]

So my dad recently bought a flight and he didn't know that I had a Frequent Flyer membership, so he used his Qantas frequent flyer member. Was wondering if we could change this flight to point to my Qantas frequent flyer membership, so that I can earn the status credits and points for that flight?

No the name on the booking will need to match what is recorded in the Frequent Flyer account in order to earn the points and status credits from the flight. He can always transfer all his points (not status credits) to your account after his flight:

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/use-points/family-transfers.html

Velocity on the other hand does allow pooling of points and status credits from family members...

 

[NM]

Thanks for clarifying! I have another question:
So my dad recently bought a flight and he didn't know that I had a Frequent Flyer membership, so he used his Qantas frequent flyer member. Was wondering if we could change this flight to point to my Qantas frequent flyer membership, so that I can earn the status credits and points for that flight? Thanks

You cannot earn Qantas FF points or status credits for a flight taken by someone else. The name on the ticket must match the FF account name. And it is against the law to travel on a flight using someone else's name (for obvious security reasons).

 

[shoziqff]

You cannot earn Qantas FF points or status credits for a flight taken by someone else. The name on the ticket must match the FF account name. And it is against the law to travel on a flight using someone else's name (for obvious security reasons).

I dont get it. So let's say I buy a ticket for my dad to travel using my qantas account, I won't be able to earn status credits of that?

 

[sqrt()]

I dont get it. So let's say I buy a ticket for my dad to travel using my qantas account, I won't be able to earn status credits of that?

Who purchases the tickets does not matter - traveller details (name on ticket/BP) and QFF details must match, however, to earn points/SCs.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

You cannot earn Qantas FF points or status credits for a flight taken by someone else. The name on the ticket must match the FF account name. And it is against the law to travel on a flight using someone else's name (for obvious security reasons).

As airwin mentions you can get the points for the flight, at least indirectly

While it is against the law to travel under a false name, not sure it is security related… everyone is screened going into the sterile area. With all the recent data leaks I’m not actually sure what it achieves!

 

[flyingfan]

To put another way, only the person flying can earn points and status credits. As mentioned, who paid the fare or is the ‘travel arranger’ doesn’t matter.
Once the points have been earned by the traveller though, they can be transferred to a relative, subject to the T&Cs. SCs can’t be transferred.

 

[NM]

As airwin mentions you can get the points for the flight, at least indirectly

Indeed, just need to be aware of the rules for Family Transfers - relationship between the members, minimum and maximum amounts that can be transferred and limits regarding how often.

While it is against the law to travel under a false name, not sure it is security related… everyone is screened going into the sterile area. With all the recent data leaks I’m not actually sure what it achieves!

Perceptions are important to those who make and enforce the rules . Reality may differ, though.

 

[NM]

I dont get it. So let's say I buy a ticket for my dad to travel using my qantas account, I won't be able to earn status credits of that?

As others have noted, it makes no difference who pays for the ticket. The name of the person traveling must be the name on the ticket and it is that person whose FF membership account will receive the FF points and status credits for the taking the flight. Your father cannot travel using your name and FF membership account details. It is against the terms and conditions of the Qantas Frequent Flyer program for someone to travel on a flight using someone else's Qantas Frequent Flyer account for points and status earning.

Now, if you and your father had the exact same name, then maybe it might work. But technically, you would need to have your own separate QFF memberships and earn points and status for the flights you each individually take.

You can earn points via a points-earning credit card for paying for your father's flight, but that is points for spending on the credit card and not points for taking the actual flight.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Perceptions are important to those who make and enforce the rules . Reality may differ, though.

Digging up the AFF thread from 2012 on this matter it seems the legislation was introduced to stop criminals travelling under false names. In 2022 that seems almost irrelevant given the ease in which identity theft and false documents could be obtained by those parties I haven’t been asked for ID on a single domestic sector this year… I could have been anyone. But from a security perspective it makes no difference, everyone is screened equally.

 

[oz_mark]

Digging up the AFF thread from 2012 on this matter it seems the legislation was introduced to stop criminals travelling under false names. In 2022 that seems almost irrelevant given the ease in which identity theft and false documents could be obtained by those parties I haven’t been asked for ID on a single domestic sector this year… I could have been anyone. But from a security perspective it makes no difference, everyone is screened equally.

Keep in mind that your idea if what ID is may be different to an airlines. In the case if Qantas:

(https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-info/travel-advice/travel-documents.html)

Forms of identification​

Domestic flights within Australia​

If you're travelling on a domestic flight within Australia (flights QF400 and above), you'll need to carry the following items with you:

• photo identification such as a driver's licence, passport or social security card; or
• your Qantas booking reference (printed on your e-ticket itinerary receipt); or
• your Qantas Frequent Flyer membership card, Qantas Club membership card; or
• the credit card used to purchase the ticket.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Keep in mind that your idea if what ID is may be different to an airlines. In the case if Qantas:

(https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-info/travel-advice/travel-documents.html)

If you're travelling on a domestic flight within Australia (flights QF400 and above), you'll need to carry the following items with you:

I have never been asked to produce any of those for any sort of reconciliation between ID and passenger travelling. And these days items 1, 2, and 4 could easily be produced in a false name Even 3, although I can’t see why anyone would bother unless they’re being very thorough with their attempts to fly under the radar and travel with a false identity.

I guess my point was that while it is an offence to travel under a false name I think it is more a law enforcement issue rather than ‘security’.

 

[NM]

And regardless of what ID might be requried to be carried/shown, pretending to be someone you are not (intentional perversion of truth), especially for the purpose of earning FF membership benefits (in order to induce another to part with something of value) seems to meet this definition of fraud.

Definition of FRAUD

deceit, trickery; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right; an act of deceiving or misrepresenting : trick… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

And I expect if Qantas Frequent Flyer find someone fraudulently earning FF benefits, they would likely commence a process to terminate the member's FF membership account.

 

[UP4014]

I have never been asked to produce any of those for any sort of reconciliation between ID and passenger travelling. And these days items 1, 2, and 4 could easily be produced in a false name Even 3, although I can’t see why anyone would bother unless they’re being very thorough with their attempts to fly under the radar and travel with a false identity.

I guess my point was that while it is an offence to travel under a false name I think it is more a law enforcement issue rather than ‘security’.

Yep, that's what happens when you don't want any staff around until you get to the gate.

Just book as Bob Builder or Thomas Tank and you're away. Remember the Chaser, Al Cader and I can't remember the other name they had being paged around the airport.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

Remember the Chaser, Al Cader and I can't remember the other name they had being paged around the airport.

Terry Wrist

 

[encryptededdy]

I have never been asked to produce any of those for any sort of reconciliation between ID and passenger travelling. And these days items 1, 2, and 4 could easily be produced in a false name Even 3, although I can’t see why anyone would bother unless they’re being very thorough with their attempts to fly under the radar and travel with a false identity.

I guess my point was that while it is an offence to travel under a false name I think it is more a law enforcement issue rather than ‘security’.

Yeah this is interesting. I remember once in ADL (for a domestic flight) my ticket wouldn't OLCI, so I had to see the service desk. I presented my QFF card, but they rejected it and asked for a Drivers License or Passport. I don't have an Australian Drivers License, so I was glad I had my Passport on me. I wonder what would've happened if I didn't?