Submissions to Aviation Green Paper

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Hi Matt,

I would like to make a simple submission and propose to the
Government that Australia should have a 'Air Passenger Rights' similar to the EU air passenger rights.
Would you be putting a submission too?

with many thanks

Chris LIm
 
@AFF Editor has confirmed plans to get in touch with the ACCC regarding its current investigation and make a submission on the Aviation Green Paper:
 
Hi Matt,

I would like to make a simple submission and propose to the
Government that Australia should have a 'Air Passenger Rights' similar to the EU air passenger rights.
Would you be putting a submission too?

with many thanks

Chris LIm

I assume I'm the Matt you're referring to :)

As @AIRwin says, I am planning to make a submission on behalf of AFF. However, you are absolutely more than welcome to make your own submission as well. In fact, I would encourage you to do so. The more, the merrier!

This Green Paper, and the current increased scrutiny on airlines in this country, could be a rare opportunity to get some positive change if enough people raise their voices.
 
I assume I'm the Matt you're referring to :)

As @AIRwin says, I am planning to make a submission on behalf of AFF. However, you are absolutely more than welcome to make your own submission as well. In fact, I would encourage you to do so. The more, the merrier!

This Green Paper, and the current increased scrutiny on airlines in this country, could be a rare opportunity to get some positive change if enough people raise their voices.

Matt - best of luck with this, at the very least in your position you should be able to bury the government in numerous specific details about airlines:

1. One sided, legally dubious and hidden T&C's/fare classes and other "gottcha's".
2. Poor performance in customer communications at all levels (call centers and woeful IT & lack of follow-up with complaints).
3. Complete lack of respect of passengers' time in fixing issues caused by airlines and lack of flexibility
4. Slot hoarding/squatting and "consolidation of flights" especially in the golden triangle routes for yield management but making up excuses about the weather.
5. Predatory competitive conduct with low fares on competitive routes & high fares on monopoly routes
6. Airport monopolist behavior.
7. A pointless and useless Airline Customer Advocate.
8. Lack of capital investment in capacity and "race to the bottom" on wages and conditions = lack of staff
9. Attempted exclusion of competitors by incumbents.
10. Federal government's lack of funding for the ACCC to monitor competition concerns.

Among many others! I expect the airline's submissions will also push back on many of these problems as being related to Covid and the various state and federal government responses to Covid, so some trends in flight cancellations and prices and statistics "precovid" and "post Covid" might be enlightening and might bypass the attempts by all to just blame all these problems on Covid. I think you're in a position to clearly show that the pattern of behavior was already there before Covid, but Covid and its responses certainly did have an effect.

One thing for sure, we now have a dysfunctional uncompetitive airline industry with high barriers to entry, dismal performance on nearly every metric able to be measured, and higher fares, and very low quality service levels and customer satisfaction than nearly every other market.
 
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I find it interesting that political posts aren't permitted on AFF, but the site making a submission to a political process is acceptable.

Its a submission to the ACCC, I agree with you that if the wording is done right the submission shouldn't have to necessarily be "political". As per my post above - I think that there is enough blame to go around for all politicians of all colors and stripes as being part of the problem. Certainly not all the problem, but it would be unrealistic to ignore the effect that different levels of government have on aviation, in the past and current governments included.
 
Thinking about this a little more, if AFF is going to make a submission, how will us as members - some of us paying - approve it? Surely AFF wouldn't make a submission on AFF letterhead that wasn't endorsed by the membership.
 
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Thinking about this a little more, if AFF is going to make a submission, how will us as members - some of us paying - approve it? Surely AFF wouldn't make a submission on AFF letterhead that wasn't endorsed by the membership.
We have membership here? As like this was an association, or similar?

I think there's nothing political about this kind of a submission when you stick to the facts and keep it neutral. The facts and the travelling public's needs are what they are regardless who's governing the country or what particular ministers, MP's, parties, etc say & do or don't.
 

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