Tokyo Haneda slot - how will Virgin Operate it?

[HS-TQE]

None of the KLM -700s are EDTO certified and are all Y configured, whereas the 2x legacy VB -700s are EDTO certified.

 

[justinbrett]

737-700 is the short term solution to the MAX issue.

Virgin begins upgrade of 737 business, economy class

There’s something for everyone in Virgin Australia’s second-gen business and economy class.

www.executivetraveller.com

Where's the sarcastic shocked emoji?

There's gonna be a lot of pax rebooked - assuming the 737-8 flights were full (which they may well not have been, considering VA never zeroed them out).

 

[Bagpuss]

None of the KLM -700s are EDTO certified and are all Y configured, whereas the 2x legacy VB -700s are EDTO certified.

I never said they'd use a KLM -700 ... I said they would need to backfill the aircraft (on domestic operations)

 

[Bagpuss]

Where's the sarcastic shocked emoji?

There's gonna be a lot of pax rebooked - assuming the 737-8 flights were full (which they may well not have been, considering VA never zeroed them out).

Doubtful they were full or near full. Some flights are full in business class and that's it. Inaugural flight still has seats to purchase.

 

[HS-TQE]

Seat Map websites usually listed a handful of Y seats available in the first 2 weeks across a number of flights. Although not really representative of the situation if a few booked passengers decide to let the agent allocate their seats on the day of departure/check-in.

 

[jrfsp]

Will the 700s be load restricted? Might make for a comfortable flight after all ....

 

[jakeseven7]

Where's the sarcastic shocked emoji?

There's gonna be a lot of pax rebooked - assuming the 737-8 flights were full (which they may well not have been, considering VA never zeroed them out).

They are not full by any stretch (see upthread).

Perhaps apart from the one VA2 booked out themselves for media of course but even that still has seats available…

 

[_flyer]

Oh wow, what a flop. I really wish I booked ANA. They had some awesome priced business seats, but I booked Virgin business instead :-(

 

[twinaisle]

Would be able to fly full capacity Y so it will be comfortable

 

[Saab34]

Would be able to fly full capacity Y so it will be comfortable

Do they block off seats for crew rest? I think it was mentioned it was a 4 pilot flight, do they get a business seat?

 

[PERLHR]

Will a 737 7 reach Haneda from Cairns? Wet Lease another aircraft? (Maybe ironically a 330 or something?)

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

So we are now using alpha numericals for the third (used to be all alpabet) after the Aust disignator VH-8**?

 

[henrus]

I really hope they take the time to now for the 2x 737-700s with power (usb in Y) and maybe even sat wifi.

These are long flights and on the 737-700s it’s going to be terribly boring, the inaugural is blocked at 7hrs 45mins!

 

[justinbrett]

So we are now using alpha numericals for the third (used to be all alpabet) after the Aust disignator VH-8**?

Yes, that was pointed out a few pages ago.

 

[twinaisle]

It would be capped so no where a full flight. Crew will get designated rest space in the form of blocked seating. J wouldn't be impacted.

 

[pauly7]

Oh wow, what a flop. I really wish I booked ANA. They had some awesome priced business seats, but I booked Virgin business instead :-(

You may well be rebooked onto a superior carrier’s product if they don’t launch on time. Fingers crossed for you.

 

[henrus]

You may well be rebooked onto a superior carrier’s product if they don’t launch on time. Fingers crossed for you.

With the exact same number of J seats it appears if the 737-700s are fine then J is not the issue, Y is 168 vs 120 meaning 48 seats difference to move but aside from that no a major issue unless further load requirements but J would be the last to be bumped!

 

[HS-TQE]

Most Flights would not be at 90% capacity for those affected in those weeks, so there would be minimal (if any) bumping of Y passengers. Also taking into consideration any load restrictions on the VB era -700s.

 

[Quickstatus]

Most Flights would not be at 90% capacity

Maybe there is a stop sell once a certain number are sold rather than a blocking out of seat availability?. Hence not showing on sites like expertflyer?

 

[justinbrett]

You may well be rebooked onto a superior carrier’s product if they don’t launch on time. Fingers crossed for you.

Jetstar will be flattered with this compliment!

With the exact same number of J seats it appears if the 737-700s are fine then J is not the issue, Y is 168 vs 120 meaning 48 seats difference to move but aside from that no a major issue unless further load requirements but J would be the last to be bumped!

I've said it before, I very much doubt it will be launching with anywhere near 128 pax. Weather dependent, but I think it will be well south of 100. It's a very long flight with long ETOPS segments.

Strangely they still have 7M8 on the GDS so we can't spy and see how many seats have been blocked.