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A while transiting through darwin all duty free over 100ml is taken away and confiscated without possibility of retrieving the items darwin security say they dont trust singapore screening over 100 ml[although they allow the ''nonscreened planes to land;; absurd and annoying once in darwin in transit you can take any amount of duty free on board the continuing flight THEY SAY THEY DESTROY THE GOODS you can imagine the quantities taken i myself lost 200 and th4 airline lets you board the plane and does not tell you the goods are going to be confiscated in transit
B also beware of airlines charging for exit seats that although have more leg room but are custom made to be very very narrow more leg space less bum space choice is yours
 
A while transiting through darwin all duty free over 100ml is taken away and confiscated without possibility of retrieving the items darwin security say they dont trust singapore screening over 100 ml[although they allow the ''nonscreened planes to land;; absurd and annoying once in darwin in transit you can take any amount of duty free on board the continuing flight THEY SAY THEY DESTROY THE GOODS you can imagine the quantities taken i myself lost 200 and th4 airline lets you board the plane and does not tell you the goods are going to be confiscated in transit

My goodness! Do you know any other airports that do this?

It must be some kind of new rule about liquids. Do you suppose it also applies to semi-liquids, such as aerosols and gels?
 
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B also beware of airlines charging for exit seats that although have more leg room but are custom made to be very very narrow more leg space less bum space choice is yours
No the seats are actually the same width, it's just that they have armrests that do not move therefore your fat is pushed back in you rather than seeping under the armrest onto the other seat or person..
lol @ choice is yours..

And how dare there be LAG restrictions....:shock:
 
A while transiting through darwin all duty free over 100ml is taken away and confiscated without possibility of retrieving the items darwin security say they dont trust singapore screening over 100 ml[although they allow the ''nonscreened planes to land;; absurd and annoying once in darwin in transit you can take any amount of duty free on board the continuing flight THEY SAY THEY DESTROY THE GOODS you can imagine the quantities taken i myself lost 200 and th4 airline lets you board the plane and does not tell you the goods are going to be confiscated in transit
B also beware of airlines charging for exit seats that although have more leg room but are custom made to be very very narrow more leg space less bum space choice is yours

Welcome to Aff ianef!

This ruling has been in effect for quite some time so it's not un-expected. Do a search around for the Liquids/Aerosols/Gasses rules on QF's site or any airline site, as well as airport sites. This was implemented after the thwarted terror attacks in London where they found a plot to blow up airliners using liquid/Jells. As usual, the public suffer for the idiots.

My goodness! Do you know any other airports that do this?

It must be some kind of new rule about liquids. Do you suppose it also applies to semi-liquids, such as aerosols and gels?

Sarcasm noted, the OP is new. Let's inform and educate, non? :)
 
Was the flight a continuation of a international flight? In other words did you clear customs in DRW, or at your final destination?

If you cleared customs in DRW to board a domestic flight then that is strange they would take your DF off you, however if you cleared customs at your final destination (eg PER \ ADL \ BNE \ SYD \ MEL) then LAG rules still apply unfortunately... It sucks because it can make knowing when to pick up DF a very difficult task...
 
If you cleared customs in DRW to board a domestic flight then that is strange they would take your DF off you, however if you cleared customs at your final destination (eg PER \ ADL \ BNE \ SYD \ MEL) then LAG rules still apply unfortunately... It sucks because it can make knowing when to pick up DF a very difficult task...

Yes simply because you will be mixing with other intl pax in DRW area.

It must be to SIN-DRW-CNS, don't the MEL & SYD continuations of the SIN & SGN flights go domestic-domestic.?
 
Even if you are doing an airside transfer INT-INT, you still are subject to another security screening, and confiscation of any liquids in excess of 100ml (including DF:(). If you want to carry on your DF you have to buy (or collect prepaid) beyond security before boarding your last INT leg.

Totally sucks in many cases, for instance will soon be flying LAX-AKL-PER, can get much better DF price on single malts in USA, but have to pack it in the checked luggage (and hope the baggage handlers don't smash it) since I am transiting AKL.

IMO, authorized DF retailers should be able to package the booze in approved sealed bags which are exempt from the liquids rules.
 
IMO, authorized DF retailers should be able to package the booze in approved sealed bags which are exempt from the liquids rules.

Problem with that is there would be nothing to stop a would be terrorist from making a copy of the bag to sneak liquid explosives through...

That said I am a little surprised there is no option for an airline to hold LAG's. eg It should be possible to purchase DF in LHR and give it to the cabin crew on boarding, then have the cabin crew hold onto it during transit in SIN.

Lets face it, LAG rules don't stop someone putting liquid explosives + timer into checked luggage, so I don't really see what the additional danger of cabin crews holding onto bottles would be.

The cynical side of me says that places like SIN would never support such a move as it would take away their virtual stronghold on DF.
 
the whole thing is ridiculous because you can take 20 *100 ml on board and then have 2 litres of liquid to put into of empty water bottles while on board but cant take 150 of cream also if darwin dosent trust singapore screening as they state why would they want the plane to land i also noticed that when i went back to the seat our half full water bottles were still in the back seats either its a hazard or not the fact that jestar dosnt warn its passengers about the confiscation of goods is a scandal
regarding the exit seating they are smaller because the food tray comes from the side and hence the seat is smaller on a jetstar plane
 
the whole thing is ridiculous because you can take 20 *100 ml on board and then have 2 litres of liquid to put into of empty water bottles while on board but cant take 150 of cream

The whole thing is indeed ridiculous, but not for that reason. LAG rules state that the 100mL containers must be placed in a clear plastic bag of capacity 1L or less.

However, to name just one of a mulititude of vulnerabilities, anyone could wear a fake beer-belly containing 15 litres of fluid and not be detected by metal detection. Or secrete a condom filled with fluid into a bodily cavity. etc.
 
A while transiting through darwin all duty free over 100ml is taken away and confiscated without possibility of retrieving the items darwin security say they dont trust singapore screening over 100 ml[although they allow the ''nonscreened planes to land;; absurd and annoying once in darwin in transit you can take any amount of duty free on board the continuing flight THEY SAY THEY DESTROY THE GOODS you can imagine the quantities taken i myself lost 200 and th4 airline lets you board the plane and does not tell you the goods are going to be confiscated in transit
This is nothing to do with Darwin airport. Its exactly the same rules for all international flights to/from Australia. If you were transferring to a domestic flight in Darwin (departing from the domestic terminal) you would not have been subject to the LAG screening limits.

Note that when purchasing duty-free liquids in Singapore, they always ask you your destination so they know if the purchase needs to be packaged in a tamper-evident bag and delivered to the boarding gate after the terminal screening point. At this point, I have always been asked "is that your final destination?". The sales people in Singapore know the transit rules and so ask the very specific question to ensure you are able to take the good home. It seems that you were not asked this question or did not give the correct answer.

In my opinion its nothing to do with "trusting Singapore" or even about aircraft security at all. This policy is continued in Australia, under the guise of a security policy, at the request/demand/lobbying of the owners of the major Australian airports (and applied across all Australian international airports/flights). The airport owners make lots of money charging rent to the duty-free shops in Australian airports and this policy ensure more business for in-bound duty-free sales at higher profit margins because there is less competition from overseas outlets. So with an almost captive market for inbound duty-free sales, the airports can charge the shops higher rent and make more money.
 
The real issue here is that Oz duty free pricing is a joke.

I am all for airline safety but I will be celebrating when the restricted liquids rule is lifted (at the same time SYD duty free goes belly up!)
 
The real issue here is that Oz duty free pricing is a joke.

I am all for airline safety but I will be celebrating when the restricted liquids rule is lifted (at the same time SYD duty free goes belly up!)

Unlikely they will go belly up, are you aware that the Duty Free in HKG, SIN, MEL, BNE, PER, CNS, LHR & CDG as well as around 40 other airports are also owned by the same owner? As NM points out, its the airport owner that profits, and what accounts for the differences in pricing!
 
the whole thing is ridiculous because you can take 20 *100 ml on board and then have 2 litres of liquid to put into of empty water bottles while on board but cant take 150 of cream also if darwin dosent trust singapore screening as they state why would they want the plane to land i also noticed that when i went back to the seat our half full water bottles were still in the back seats either its a hazard or not the fact that jestar dosnt warn its passengers about the confiscation of goods is a scandal
regarding the exit seating they are smaller because the food tray comes from the side and hence the seat is smaller on a jetstar plane

By the way, the full stop is that funny one with the dot and the > there about two keys to the left of the right SHIFT key.
Oh I can see that doesn't help either...:mrgreen:
 
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Can't believe it took this long for us bunch of pedants to mention the punctuation (or lack thereof...);)
 
No the seats are actually the same width, it's just that they have armrests that do not move therefore your fat is pushed back in you rather than seeping under the armrest onto the other seat or person..
lol @ choice is yours..
regarding the exit seating they are smaller because the food tray comes from the side and hence the seat is smaller on a jetstar plane
ianef,

Welcome to AFF.

Read post #3 above (I have included the quote for you).

The seats are the same width, it is not exclusive to Jetstar and please look at your punctuation :!:
 
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Welcome

I just wanted to reasure you about the liquids being destroyed. My great grand father developed a liking for rum during WWI. He was a customs inspector for all his life. According to his grand children (my mum and her siblings) his house was full of bottles of rum that he brought home from work.

while I don't disagree with all the talk about who profits from selling duty free. I do have to mention the flight from manila to japan on which a liquid explosive was used.

Another comment about DF shops, if 40 major ones around the world are owned by the same person then they really shouldn't care about which airport someone buys at. So I'd lean towards a airport owner conspriacy on this one, as mentioned.
 
As sort of mentioned by NM and medhead I believe that it’s all about Australia DF lobbying and what not to make the sale instead of overseas ports doing so. It’s really bad, but I doubt anything could be done about it as the only one that benefits is the Australian economy so no one wants to spoil that.

I’d love it if other countries imposed restrictions on planes departing Australia though, give them a taste of their own medicine for a bit and upset us, maybe someone would then wake up and cut the BS.

ianef,

Welcome to AFF.

Read post #3 above (I have included the quote for you).

The seats are the same width, it is not exclusive to Jetsatar and please look at your punctuation :!:

Punctuation is one thing, but what about spelling? :p
 
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