Truth in reporting to be towed back to where it came from

[Moody]

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/t...layed-the-treason-card-against-the-abc-2014-1

What's worse than the first 100 days of Despicable T's reign? Why the next 100 days of course!

 

[casanovawa]

Grit your teeth Moods... There's a few more 100 days coming after that lot as well....

 

[medhead]

He has a fair point, the ABC should have never reported about the unsubstantiated allegations about sexual abuse in the Australian Defence force. That was clearly un-australian and anti military.

 

[HarryB]

I am strapped in for this thread!

 

[medhead]

I am strapped in for this thread!

It'll probably amount to nothing. Some people around here have realised the error of their ways. This news story just confirms those errors.

Still it's an interesting threat. Say nice things about me or I'll cut your funding. Yeap, nice support of independent media reporting using facts in that.....

 

[Moody]

It'll probably amount to nothing. Some people around here have realised the error of their ways. This news story just confirms those errors. ....

Seems you are spot on, Medhead. Not too surprising though, seeing how even a hardened right-wing head kicker like Eric Abetz won't back Abbott up.

Oh - but it seems something else has crawled out from under a rock to give their wisdom ...

Liberal strategist Mark Textor in dark, profane ABC warning | News.com.au

 

[medhead]

Now this is unfair and all. Tony a bigger cry baby than Hawke? Surely not....

Somebody call the waaaambulance - the ABC has been mean to Abbott

Still Hawke was an extremely good PM, if crying was his secret there might be some hope for Abbott yet.

 

[whatmeworry]

Oh poor Tony!

[video=youtube;n87yi2XnYIo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n87yi2XnYIo[/video]

 

[Sprucegoose]

At least we have a PM solving problems and not creating them. If you lot don't like how things are there's always New Zealand or worse!

Let the blah blah continue, it's your right.

 

[medhead]

I'm not sure how demanding the ABC bias their coverage in favour of Abbott with a nationalist half twist is solving a problem. It creates a problem.

In fact, there is not a single problem Abbott has solved, even of those problems that he confected himself.

 

[Robbi]

I'm not sure how demanding the ABC bias their coverage in favour of Abbott with a nationalist half twist is solving a problem. It creates a problem.

In fact, there is not a single problem Abbott has solved, even of those problems that he confected himself.

Seems to me there was a whole lot of ALP rubbish that ABC did not report even when there was clear evidence, yet they routinely report "allegations of this", "alleged that" for anything the Liberals are trying to do...not surprising as my understanding is that the ALP Board, oops, ABC Board has more than it's fair share of ALP cronies.

ABC should report the truth, investigate stories with its own resources instead of swallowing the gibbering rubbish of vested interests, never report unsubstantiated allegations or incomplete stories as fact or news. There should be complete impartiality, no following political lines regardless of whose they are.

Hang Abbott out to dry by all means, but hang Shorten along with him for equally coughulous actions.

 

[Sprucegoose]

I'm not sure how demanding the ABC bias their coverage in favour of Abbott with a nationalist half twist is solving a problem. It creates a problem.

In fact, there is not a single problem Abbott has solved, even of those problems that he confected himself.

He hasn't stopped solving problems. All those socialist handout have created one huge debt!!!


Thank god the adults are back in charge

 

[yohy?!]

@Robbi give an example of alp under reporting on the ALP or that's nonsense

 

[Moody]

Seems to me there was a whole lot of ALP rubbish that ABC did not report even when there was clear evidence, ...

Seems to me you are trying to make a claim without any attempt to provide evidence. Wonder why that is?

... yet they routinely report "allegations of this", "alleged that" for anything the Liberals are trying to do...

I think I understand what you are alluding to here. You are sledging the ABC for reporting that some asylum seekers alleged that they were mistreated at the hands of the Australian Navy. They tried to get the other side of the story but all you get is Scum Morrison telling you DFOs that of course they weren't mistreated because they are the baddies and we are the goodies, and no - I won't be releasing the video evidence that the Navy recorded.

not surprising as my understanding is that the ALP Board, oops, ABC Board has more than it's fair share of ALP cronies....

Your "understanding" will continue to be impaired until you stop listening to cretins like Ray Hadley. You can thank me later.

ABC should report the truth,....

Do you have any examples where they haven't?

... investigate stories with its own resources instead of swallowing the gibbering rubbish of vested interests....

This is priceless! We are still talking about the ABC, aren't we? You seem to be confusing them with News Limited

never report unsubstantiated allegations or incomplete stories as fact or news.....

Yes - I've covered this, but you may want to consult with a journalist. They will better be able to explain how news reporting works.

There should be complete impartiality, no following political lines regardless of whose they are. ....

Finally we agree on something. So what was all of the other rubbish about?

Hang Abbott out to dry by all means, but hang Shorten along with him for equally coughulous actions.

Despicable T needs no-one's help doing that, but what has Bill Shorten said or done that has upset you?

 

[Moody]

He hasn't stopped solving problems.

Help me out 'coz I'm struggling here. Could you give a few examples?

All those socialist handout have created one huge debt!!!.

Which handouts in particular are you concerned with? The dole ... the pension ... the PPL scheme? Which do you think should be reduced or abolished?

Thank god the adults are back in charge

When did that happen and why did nobody tell me???

 

[drron]

One contribution only because I have learnt those on the left have an insular view of the truth and attack anyone who does think differently.
As for the ABC reporting untruths the recent boat people burnt hands is a classic.An ABC staffer went on facebook and sent emails to defence personnel admitting her boss did not think the allegations were true.Then this last Thursday the ABC reported further claims from a Somali man.Unfortunately it undermined the original burns story as he said the people were trying to damage the engine.Funny after a few hours this report was taken down by the ABC.

Now to the ALP.When Julia Gillard was PM an article by Greg Sheridan was published in the Australian.I actually read it online before it was taken down.It said that it was likely an investigation into the AWU slush fund in the 1990s was to be undertaken by the Police.The PM got on the phone to the Australian's editor getting the article removed,the journalist sacked and an apology.Subsequent events have revealed the story was correct-though hardly ever mentioned by the ABC.And yes it was the 1990s Moody but then you are convinced that matters in the 1970s are very important and they have certainly been reported extensively by the ABC and Fairfax.

Now you can have your thread back and flame me as much as you want.I wont be responding further.

 

[burmans]

The reality is that most people have insular views of the truth and judge others as prejudiced whereas an independent observer must suggest it is the other way around.

I am fairly centralist myself, probably right wing leaning on economic issues but slight left wing on social issues and frankly don't buy into the fundamentalist cough peddled by both sides of politics. Frankly the level of journalism of all news outlets leaves a lot to be desired but Im far more likely to listen/watch the ABC if I want to get close to the truth. Sure I understand they are left leaning but at least the journalists at least seem to make an attempt to tell something close to the truth whereas the Murdoch press don't even seem to try.

So the argument about telling the truth bemuses me, yes it is important to me, but its to me the height of cynicism for me that a bunch of people who have absolutely no regard for the truth (indeed who seem to attach considerable value to their ability to mislead us) suddenly start talking about truth in reporting.

 

[admin]

I was hoping that this time around things would be different and that some politeness, a bit of good will, and a dose of common decency would prevail in this "political" thread. Unfortunately, I was wrong.

Learning from the previous political thread which I believe was kept open for too long, I am now closing this thread permanently - for the same reasons as http://www.australianfrequentflyer....bbott-in-government-53735-209.html#post972499

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