Which airlines will match my current QF status?

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Hi guys, QF changed of strategy is impacting me and I am ready to switch to another airlines. Which airlines are the easiest ones to approach?
I travel between Asia to Europe, Asia to the US mostly. Sometimes Asia to Australia. I am upset with QF and ready to move. Can you share your experiences too?
I put my thoughts about QF on LinkedIn. Please kindly read it and help me out. If you know any other upset platinum members, please do let me know. I managed to talk to several upset customers and I aim to strike a deal with other competing airlines within oneworld by bringing volumes of business.
Please connect with Richard Gunawan (me) on LinkedIn and I just published my latest thought on Qantas in LinkedIn. My 23 years of loyalty is not valued by them anymore.

 

[RooFlyer]

You didn't say what your QFF status actually is. Are you restricting your new airline of choice to OneWorld? If your flying is mainly Asia to Europe, US and sometimes Australia then I guess its CX, JL, MH and whatever the Chinese OW airline is. I'm not aware of any of these that are currently offering a Status Match with QF.

With a flying pattern of mainly Asia to Europe, US and sometimes Australia , I'm a bit surprised you have been able to persevere with QF for so long.

 

[amaroo]

TK Miles and Smiles were matching *Gold > QF WP, not sure if it's going.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

What are your specific examples of how you are allegedly worse off by QF strategy?

You may think you're better off but crediting to another program but in the case of AA for example you would only be better off crediting QF flights to them if you're already an AA elite ff ie Executive Platinum ie if you have no status to speak of and credit QF flights to AA you may as well throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Even if you do obtain elite status with AA, you have to maintain that level each year by flying there is no soft landing to Platinum or Gold like there is with QF.

 

[Mattg]

I believe Alitalia are doing status matches at the moment. That's perhaps unlikely to be of use to you, but you could use it for another future status match.

Otherwise, if you are likely to take at least four American Airlines flights each year, perhaps look at AAdvantage and do one of their status challenges to get to AA Platinum (equivalent of QF Gold) quickly. But you'll need to fly enough (including at least four AA flights each year) to maintain it going forward.

A number of other US-based airlines offer status challenges too.

 

[Boca68]

Hi guys, QF changed of strategy is impacting me and I am ready to switch to another airlines. Which airlines are the easiest ones to approach?
I travel between Asia to Europe, Asia to the US mostly. Sometimes Asia to Australia. I am upset with QF and ready to move. Can you share your experiences too?
I put my thoughts about QF on LinkedIn. Please kindly read it and help me out. If you know any other upset platinum members, please do let me know. I managed to talk to several upset customers and I aim to strike a deal with other competing airlines within oneworld by bringing volumes of business.
Please connect with Richard Gunawan (me) on LinkedIn and I just published my latest thought on Qantas in LinkedIn. My 23 years of loyalty is not valued by them anymore.

not that I use LinkedIn, or facebook and the like. But, I use google a lot. A simple search tells me that there's 20+ Richard Gunawans' on LinkedIn. A high proportion, shall we say of limited authenticity.

Something is fishy in Denmark....

 

[Sprucegoose]

Linked In is a 'professional' networking site not a place to spill your guts when your 23 year old marriage dissolves with an airline. I would call the OP quite delusional

 

[TheInsider]

He has now posted this question on ausbt too!

 

[GalaxyNexus]

If he really flies that much as claimed in the LinkedIn post (I think it's this one and this one), especially in premium cabin, I don't get it why a status match is required at all... the posts are also mostly content-free, I think I wasted my time reading.

 

[PineappleSkip]

Curiouser and curiouser. Maybe OP finds it inconvenient to do the 4 QF flights to maintain status.

I used to fly VA to AUH, readily maintained VA WP, but the connecting flights to KBL disappeared and VA lost relevance. An upset of sorts I guess. Switched to OW flights and regained QF WP after a while. Such is life with airlines.

All good luck to the OP with his marketing ploy. Be interested to see how it goes. For the moment I'm comfy where I am

Cheers skip.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Curiouser and curiouser. Maybe OP finds it inconvenient to do the 4 QF flights to maintain status.

They also seem to find it inconvenient to give any specific details as requested so you're unable to offer any advice.

There will always be someone upset with their freq flyer program for one reason or another but you don't need to restrict yourself to one ff program.

There will be good and not so good elements of every program so you just need to know what the good bits are in each program and utilise as required.

 

[SeatBackForward]

Note that their anniversary date was June this year, so something perhaps didn't work out for them in the meantime?

Still, too much fluff, "I know people' type of things..

 

[Anna]

Usually on LinkedIn you have to log in to find someone and have access to their posts. That person can then usually see the details of who has looked them up. Good way to find out the real identities of AFF'ers and other people interested in travel.

 

[trippin_the_rift]

OP: Ranting on forums isn't going to get you anything from frequent flyer programs - especially posting the same thing across multiple sites. Firstly you need to look at FFPs like the government. They think you need them more than they need you. Your definition of loyalty and theirs couldn't be more opposite.
Let me illustrate - QFF has a monopoly on the program in Australia. Just like Air NZ does in New Zealand. There is very little incentive for them to improve, be creative or add value to the program and this creates a culture where the employees at these companies are managing a program instead of creating real value for the future. Because of this - you need to replace the world 'loyalty' with 'marketing'. QFF is a marketing program designed to get you to engage with other member products.

Your definition of loyalty is likely share of wallet. Qantas has had near 100% of your available airline spend for the past 23 years and when something goes wrong or you don't receive a minimum service standard - you feel betrayed. From QFF's view - you're their #918,182th* most important customer. See the problem here?

Reality is that even if you switch to another airline/program/alliance you will run into the same problems - unless you choose an airline that has systems that can identify and take action on your activity and apply it to your future experiences.

For example - one middle eastern airline analyses your total value to the program (flights over time - including families, tickets/buckets you could have purchased but didn't, credit card spend, credit card bonuses, who is paying for airline tickets, ability to woo you etc..) and projects your value based in a number of factors. In this sense - customers who genuinely are valuable in their own way get recognised in a personalised manner that speaks to their drivers behind engaging with the airline/FF program. QFF does not do this - although they appear to be moving in the right direction.

If you genuinely do want to switch programs there is a process and method to run through so you're able to maximize the value from which ever program you shift business toward. For example - Qantas Frequent Flyer is the 10th best program in Oneworld for points earning:benefit ratio from international travel - and if you're flying Asia <-> USA <-> Europe then - like others have mentioned - I'm surprised you've stuck with QFF for this long.

I've compiled a model that looks at every Oneworld flight number and analyses it to see which frequent flyer program each particular flight is best off being credited to. From this data I'm able to see trends based on individual segments to see which program is best for what type of flyer different parts of the world.

While my model is a commercial program - I do have a very basic early version of this online (without QF support) that may be useful - Oneworld frequent flyer by flyora

 

[PineappleSkip]

you're their #918,182th* most important customer

Is there an explanation of the * hidden somewhere. Curious about the stat...


Cheers skip