Worst tippers

[Foreigner]

Apparently the French followed by the British:

Why are Britons so bad at tipping? - Telegraph

 

[Dr Ralph]

I'm all for banning tipping save for exceptional service.

 

[JessicaTam]

At least the French and Brits have knocked us out of top spot.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Apparently the French followed by the British:

Why are Britons so bad at tipping? - Telegraph

Um, maybe because there's normally 12-18% service charge included in the bill.. Very silly article IMHO.

This Americanised concept should be fought. Pay your waitstaff living wages. ( and penalty rates on holidays and weekends.)

 

[Dr Ralph]

Um, maybe because there's normally 12-18% service charge included in the bill.. Very silly article IMHO.

This Americanised concept should be fought. Pay your waitstaff living wages. ( and penalty rates on holidays and weekends.)

So well said TheRealTMA. It's the employer who pays the wages NOT the customer.

 

[Dr Ralph]

At least the French and Brits have knocked us out of top spot.

I'd be happy for Australia to be in the top spot of this list...or failing that just me individually!

 

[DC3]

Tipping in bars, only, for that survey? Not sure how representative that would be: 105 bars in nine countries.

From my experience, in the USA, Australians have a reputation as bad tippers. Probably due to the general Ozzie being oblivious to the wages generally paid to those in the hospitality industry.

Edit: Regarding bar staff in the USA, a few dollars tipped up front, almost guarantees a night of potent drinks in my experience.

 

[cove]

Last night we just doubled the tax at a Los Angeles restaurant and that came to around 18% with rounding down to whole dollars. We pay the tip in cash.
There is no real need to tip in Australia as everyone gets paid fair hourly rates.

 

[Cool Cat Phil]

Um, maybe because there's normally 12-18% service charge included in the bill.. Very silly article IMHO.

This Americanised concept should be fought. Pay your waitstaff living wages. ( and penalty rates on holidays and weekends.)

+ 1 that agrees with your view.

In Canada, they too follow the Americanised concept of Tipping & it was so disappointing to witness wait staff going through the customer service/ motions ' Mary Gober' style in so many restaurants.

 

[DC3]

.... This Americanised concept should be fought. Pay your waitstaff living wages. ( and penalty rates on holidays and weekends.)

I agree with paying a decent wage.

When the system will ever change, who knows. Not likely to be soon.

I can't imagine trying to survive on $7-$10 per hour, plus tips. I know that I'd be chasing the tips like crazy.

 

[Warks]

I posted this in another thread about tipping. It pretty much sums up the whole American situation. Warning a couple of swears.
[video=youtube;q_vivC7c_1k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_vivC7c_1k[/video]

 

[JohnK]

What's this obsession with tipping?

You get paid to do a job. If that pay isn't enough then ask for a pay raise and failing that find a better job.

 

[DC3]

Loved that video clip, Warks.

 

[Dr Ralph]

What's this obsession with tipping?

You get paid to do a job. If that pay isn't enough then ask for a pay raise and failing that find a better job.

Completely agree. Its up to customers to lead the change here. Just don't tip. Problem solved.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Completely agree. Its up to customers to lead the change here. Just don't tip. Problem solved.

It's a little more complicated unfortunately. In the US and Canada I feel one has to tip, it is their custom. What I highly object to is the Americans (and I guess Canadians but less so. ) taking their destructive work policies outside their country. I've had some screaming arguments with Americans in Italy on tipping after being accused of being "oh, 'YOU'RE' one of those Australians who don't tip.".

On Fodor's there's a some very nasty people on the tipping thread. And for some amusement (even if OT (and very OTT)) see the Fodor's thread on the Americans' advice for using roundabouts in the UK.

You get to the junction, signal for where you are going - ​

• 
  [*=1]is there a car on the thing that will hit you if you pull out, don't go. (yes watch for their signals but also watch for their direction and movement, some people don't signal or are tourists and confused
  
  )

• 
  [*=1]is there no car on the thing that will hit you if you pull out, go, as you get to your exit signal off.
  

dead easy - The best roundabout advice I've heard was from Rick Steves who said to drive all the way around once before you pick your turn. One complete circle and then you'll know.​

 

[Isochronous]

I agree with paying a decent wage.

When the system will ever change, who knows. Not likely to be soon.

I can't imagine trying to survive on $7-$10 per hour, plus tips. I know that I'd be chasing the tips like crazy.

At least it's a job. And it motivates waitstaff to provide better service.

 

[nickfromeastryde]

I agree with paying a decent wage.

When the system will ever change, who knows. Not likely to be soon.

I can't imagine trying to survive on $7-$10 per hour, plus tips. I know that I'd be chasing the tips like crazy.

And yet the poorest paid of all of them, those working in fast food chains don't get and don't expect to get tipped.

No one in the USA seems to be too concerned about them which I find quite interesting

 

[dajop]

What I highly object to is the Americans (and I guess Canadians but less so. ) taking their destructive work policies outside their country. I

Interesting, read a discussion recently about what to tip complementary hire car/limousine drivers in different countries (such as those provided by middle eastern airlines). In Singapore, one contributor (I assume neither a local, nor an Australian) noted they consider $20 appropriate as it is 20% of what they usually pay ($100) when they book the car via hotel (which naturally, is about double what you pay for a booking direct with a provider, or UberExec). Interesting the tip itself is only slightly less (or at some times of the day slightly more) than a taxi fare....

 

[DC3]

... those working in fast food chains don't get and don't expect to get tipped ...

Yes, but no table service there, so no tips I guess.

No one in the USA seems to be too concerned about them which I find quite interesting

The haves, and the have-nots. The haves don't care about the have-nots.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Interesting, read a discussion recently about what to tip complementary hire car/limousine drivers in different countries (such as those provided by middle eastern airlines). In Singapore, one contributor (I assume neither a local, nor an Australian) noted they consider $20 appropriate as it is 20% of what they usually pay ($100) when they book the car via hotel (which naturally, is about double what you pay for a booking direct with a provider, or UberExec). Interesting the tip itself is only slightly less (or at some times of the day slightly more) than a taxi fare....

I can never get my head around tipping Valet parking attendants when if they don't do the basic thing they do then you can't get the car parked and returned and their company doesn't earn the (expensive) valet fee. It's like tipping the car park cashier for collecting the money and opening the gate (where they have them anymore.)

I do sometimes tip them when in the US but never know exactly how to work it out.

Of course this is one of the things that makes using UBER in US/Canada more convenient for travellers - the tip is included.