WSI for Western Sydney Airport

[SeatBackForward]

There isnt exactly a plethora of hotels planned for WSI. Have any 4 star offerings been announced? At least at LHR you have a Sofitel connected to the terminal.
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Interesting, right now if a plane diverts to CBR or BNE due to weather QF put you up in a hotel overnight. I imagine if you end up at WSI (instead of SYD) that QF wont be stumping up the extra $170 in Uber fares to get you back to your home in Sydney.

They're so thick in Notsydney, that is anything west of Pyrmont, that they build airports without considering all the other things an airport might need...oh wait.

Major Development Plans​

Proposals for large development projects at Western Sydney International Airport are approved by the Australian Government as a Major Development Plan (MDP). Below are the MDPs that have been approved at WSI.
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The Major Development Plan proposes a ‘precinct’ concept (see below) that will deliver serviced super-lots, arterial road connections, an internal road network and the construction of a warehouse, bulky goods building, and a hotel precinct, to serve the early requirements of the region and airport operations.

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Construction Estate works for the BPSO are scheduled to commence in late 2023, and will be completed by July 2024, with the warehouse, bulky goods development and hotel estimated to be completed by late 2025.

And this is just upon opening.

 

[Quickstatus]

Here is the Link for the WSI precint
There is a lot of development in that area which will exceed the forward lifetimes of those commenting here.

 

[jase05]

Also Bankstown could have been converted to a freight airport.

Hilarious stuff

 

[jase05]

Here is the Link for the WSI precint
There is a lot of development in that area which will exceed the forward lifetimes of those commenting here.

Exactly.
This isn’t about our lifetimes it’s about generations into the future
Happy for the government to invest in the future

 

[Lynda2475]

They're so thick in Notsydney, that is anything west of Pyrmont, that they build airports without considering all the other things an airport might need...oh wait.

So only 1 hotel, with no brand or class noted, probably an Ibis Budget (no thanks).

But my point was I wouldn't want to stay out there, just get back to Sydney as fast as possible in the unfortunate event I was every diverted there. And that the airline if it diverts somewhere more than an hour away from the destination purchased should be liable for the cost to get me to the location I actually purchased.

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Hilarious stuff

No more hilarious than building an airport outside of Sydney and then using Sydney in the name.

 

[Himeno]

Well my preference is to remove SYD curfew and expand SYD into Botany Bay adding a genuine 3rd runway (not one that criss crosses the other 2) and possibly a 4th runway.

Right now, you could consider WSI to be NRT. Maybe in 30 years, they'll expand SYD into the bay and do what they did for HND.

 

[jase05]

No more hilarious than building an airport outside of Sydney and then using Sydney in the name.

Clearly you don’t know how freight operates to even suggest Bankstown.

At the end of the day no one is asking you to go out there but there will be millions that do and in 40-50 years hopefully people look back on it and thank the government for the foresight to make it happen.

 

[Himeno]

No more hilarious than building an airport outside of Sydney and then using Sydney in the name.

No different to many of the airports across Europe that Ryanair fly's to.

 

[dajop]

But my point was I wouldn't want to stay out there, just get back to Sydney as fast as possible in the unfortunate event I was every diverted there. And that the airline if it diverts somewhere more than an hour away from the destination purchased should be liable for the cost to get me to the location I actually purchased.

This happens already, BNE/OOL and MEL/AVV - IIRC typically passengers seem to either wait until plane resumes to final destination or they put a bus on to get them there.

 

[RooFlyer]

Right now, you could consider WSI to be NRT. Maybe in 30 years, they'll expand SYD into the bay and do what they did for HND.

Except NRT is still out in the countryside after all the years after opening. WSI is starting off from the edge of the urban conurbation.

You could think of it this way - SYD is on the eastern edge of greater Sydney and WSI is on the western edge.

 

[jase05]

No different to many of the airports across Europe that Ryanair fly's to.

Belongs in the travel mistakes thread but yes as a young fella it was a rude shock to land at Frankfurt-Hahn for the first time only to realise it’s nowhere near Frankfurt and having to hitch a ride into Koblenz

 

[Lynda2475]

No different to many of the airports across Europe that Ryanair fly's to.

Well Im not concerned with LCCs, only full service airlines.

 

[dajop]

No different to many of the airports across Europe that Ryanair fly's to.

London Stansted, about the same distance from central London and WSI is from the centre of Sydney.

 

[justinbrett]

Except NRT is still out in the countryside after all the years after opening. WSI is starting off from the edge of the urban conurbation.

You could think of it this way - SYD is on the eastern edge of greater Sydney and WSI is on the western edge.

And if JR were building and operating the public transport to WSI it would be a raging success too.

Sadly it’s not.

NRT is better linked to Tokyo city than WSI will ever be to Sydney city.

 

[elanshin]

Ultimately WSI won't be measured on how well it does day 1 but possibly by the mid 2030s.

Well Im not concerned with LCCs, only full service airlines.

I don't expect many full service airlines to move over especially onces with SYD slots. Again you can choose to ignore WSI from your skyscanner search if you want. But i suspect WSI will open the door for a lot more LCC and other existing "full" service carriers to expand their Sydney network.

SQ, CX, MH all have incentives and a late night Melbourne flight that times well with their onwards morning flights. I wouldnt be surprised if airlines like Batik Air or Air Asia increases presence in Sydney. Maybe Zipair too from WSI. With some of the slots shifted out of SYD, you could see other full carriers come into SYD as well.

I wouldn't mind seeing BR, JX, WY (especially once they join OW), TK operate out of SYD in the future once theres more slots available just to name some.

And if JR were building and operating the public transport to WSI it would be a raging success too.

Sadly it’s not.

NRT is better linked to Tokyo city than WSI will ever be to Sydney city.

I think it's telling that it takes the same amount of time to go from JFK to Time Square as it does for NRT to Tokyo station despite one only being about 27-28km and the other being 70km.

Still it's not terrible for now and MEL will still be the joke of the main Australian capital cities for airport rail link.

 

[Himeno]

Still it's not terrible for now and MEL will still be the joke of the main Australian capital cities for airport rail link.

You mean CBR isn't a joke for the lack of a rail link?

 

[RooFlyer]

And if JR were building and operating the public transport to WSI it would be a raging success too.

Sadly it’s not.

NRT is better linked to Tokyo city than WSI will ever be to Sydney city.

Ever? Big call

NRT was opened in 1978 - 46 years ago! Let’s give WSI 46 years - or even 10 or 20 - and see how the transport is then. And after all this time I don’t think there is a direct connection between NRT and HND is there? You have to do the limousine bus thing? ( For those fretting about connections between the two Sydney airports.)

And also give things like hotels some time, for those fretting that there is apparently only one Hotel planned on opening.

 

[elanshin]

Ever? Big call

NRT was opened in 1978 - 46 years ago! Let’s give WSI 46 years - or even 10 or 20 - and see how the transport is then. And after all this time I don’t think there is a direct connection between NRT and HND is there? You have to do the limousine bus thing? ( For those fretting about connections between the two Sydney airports.)

The Toei Asakusa with through running onto other different companies goes from both NRT to HND.

It's just not necessarily the quickest option, but it is one train.

 

[justinbrett]

Ever? Big call

NRT was opened in 1978 - 46 years ago! Let’s give WSI 46 years - or even 10 or 20 - and see how the transport is then.

How old is Tulla?

Yes you can get a direct train from NRT to HND.

 

[dairyfloss]

You mean CBR isn't a joke for the lack of a rail link?

Doesn’t count when you can ride a bike into town in 15 mins