WSI for Western Sydney Airport

[kamchatsky]

If the WSI passenger volumes can reach to ADL level in the first 2 years, it would be considered successful. WSI is never meant to fully replace SYD anyway. Looking at the ADL route map, I think WSI can have that many routes in the first 2 years.



What I do want to see is Metro Northwest extended from Tallawong to St Marys, so that all the residents in the northwest can go to WSI much easier. But that would be 15 years away at least. Of course, the even longer term of extending Metro West from Westmead to WSI, that would be another 25 years.

 

[elanshin]

Wont affect mine as it is far far cheaper to commute to/from SYD, so I can not see a situation where Id ever choose to use WSI. but it is imo misusing tax payer money which would be better invested elsewhere.

Noting none of my super is invested in WSI (why invest in something that will not be very successful).

The increased freight operations efficiency and investments in that area should alone would be solid RoI for not just Sydney but this whole country with the freight volumes that go through the logistics hubs right next door to WSI.

 

[kamchatsky]

No it will be a failure due to very inconvenient location which has a very misleading name; given it isn't in (or anywhere near) the city of Sydney.

When Avalon launched some airlines sneakily included it when you searched for MEL and lots of people got a rude shock to disembark from their cheap flight only to find they were a very expensive taxi / uber rom Melbourne; which totally negated their cheap airfare and then some.

We will see similar confusion and complaints when WSI opens.

What is your definition of "failure" though? Is it by passenger or cargo volumes? I think your bar may be setting too high for WSI.

 

[jase05]

The increased freight operations efficiency and investments in that area should alone would be solid RoI for not just Sydney but this whole country with the freight volumes that go through the logistics hubs right next door to WSI.

This is the most important part that many are missing. This is an absolute game changer for the freight industry

 

[torks]

Just look at BA as an example of how an airline bases itself out of 3 (Maybe 4 these days with seasonal services from Stansted) London airports. Vast majority of flights from Heathrow, some short European business focused flights from city, which mostly compliment/duplicate what is on offer from Heathrow, plus then leisure orientated flights from Gatwick, which also compliment/duplicate what is on offer at Heathrow.

Like Sydney, Heathrow is slot constrained and on a much bigger basis, however you don't see them only serving destinations from one airport.

 

[Lynda2475]

A bit misleading as half of Greater sydney's population is in "Greater Western Sydney" and closer to WSI

Not at all, even Paramatta is closer to SYD than WSI. Inner West, East, Inner South and Lowe North Shore are all very densely populated with higher incomes. Then add in less affluent areas like Rhodes, Bankstown etc still much closer to SYD.

Even areas outside of Sydney like Central Coast and Newcastle are going to get to SYD much easier and quicker than WSI.

I see no evidence of half of Sydney living closer to WSI than SYD.

 

[Quickstatus]

Inner West, East, Inner South and Lowe North Shore

You keep referring to these suburbs as though thats the extent of Greater Sydney.

 

[p--and--t]

If the WSI passenger volumes can reach to ADL level in the first 2 years, it would be considered successful. WSI is never meant to fully replace SYD anyway. Looking at the ADL route map, I think WSI can have that many routes in the first 2 years.

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What I do want to see is Metro Northwest extended from Tallawong to St Marys, so that all the residents in the northwest can go to WSI much easier. But that would be 15 years away at least. Of course, the even longer term of extending Metro West from Westmead to WSI, that would be another 25 years.

Tullamarine is 50yrs old and still no train connection snd wont be for a few years yet. That hasn't resulted in MEL being a white elephant as some others are mistakenly predicting for WSI.

Besides the obvious freight operations, I believe I read somewhere both QF and JQ have already committed a significant number of passenger aircraft to be home based at WSI well before it is open for use.