MEL to start third runway project

[markis10]

Melbourne Airport is planning a $500 million third runway which will challenge Sydney to the title of Australia's gateway.


The new runway will mean thousands more jets will head for curfew-free Melbourne Airport with aircraft movements expected to jump from 200,000 to 281,000 by 2022-23.


Construction is likely to begin in 2016 and will take between two to four years to complete.

New $500m runway for Melbourne Airport | News | Business Spectator

 

[coyote25]

Just enough time to organise a train transport option


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[defurax]

I love curfew-free airports! Nothing like a MEL-HKG flight leaving at 1 AM for a full 8 hours night sleep! Every time I take the last SYD-MEL flight at 10 PM I can't believe I'm in an large international airport...


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[serfty]

IIRC it is south of the original 1960's planned second east - west runway which was to be just north of the current one.

 

[Mwenenzi]

The 3rd & 4th runways are marked on my 1988 Melways
This runway is more western than what is shown as the 4th in 1988 Melways.
1988 Melways 3rd is now industrial buildings.

 

[Hvr]

So any chance QFi will route some more direct flights out of MEL?

 

[markis10]

So any chance QFi will route some more direct flights out of MEL?

Where is the smiley??

 

[defurax]

So any chance QFi will route some more direct flights out of MEL?

I wish... but on the flip side connecting through SYD gives a nice extra 10, 20 or 40 SCs(I'm a glass half full person )

 

[Hvr]

I wish... but on the flip side connecting through SYD gives a nice extra 10, 20 or 40 SCs(I'm a glass half full person )

And if timed correctly even more time in the F Lounge.

 

[pshepvic]

So with this great new runway, are we getting more gates? A bigger customs and arrivals hall with more staff? Train transport to the airport? More parking? Better roadways in, to avoid making the traffic even worse than now?

Or is this one of those things where all the money will be spent on the runway, with nothing left for anything else?


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[dajop]

I love curfew-free airports! Nothing like a MEL-HKG flight leaving at 1 AM for a full 8 hours night sleep! Every time I take the last SYD-MEL flight at 10 PM I can't believe I'm in an large international airport...

Haha just wait for the fun and games. Already activist group is up an running with a petition for the following:

We the aggrieved citizens, with the right of petitioning the Parliament, (a long and established
fundamental right) therefore ask the House to use it’s exclusive powers to reject any additional
runways at Melbourne Airport, cap the number of aircraft allowed to use Melbourne Airport and
impose a curfew between the hours of 11pm and 6am.

(not pasting the link for this quote, as I don't agree with the petition, if someone else wants to they can)

 

[dot]

So with this great new runway, are we getting more gates? A bigger customs and arrivals hall with more staff? Train transport to the airport? More parking? Better roadways in, to avoid making the traffic even worse than now?

Or is this one of those things where all the money will be spent on the runway, with nothing left for anything else?


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Plenty of changes already underway (or completed) - revised departure ramp work, additional gates, additional retail space, more smartgates and customs capacity, new control tower, revised airport entrances of the Tulla freeway. It's not like the rest of the airport has been standing still....

 

[katiebell]

I love curfew-free airports! Nothing like a MEL-HKG flight leaving at 1 AM for a full 8 hours night sleep! Every time I take the last SYD-MEL flight at 10 PM I can't believe I'm in an large international airport...


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Could not agree more: and what a great way to travel to LHR. Why did QF ever stop QF29/30 in this slot?

More direct flights from MEL will happen but cannot see QF doing so ith the current Sydney-centric management.

 

[anat0l]

(not pasting the link for this quote, as I don't agree with the petition, if someone else wants to they can)

You're not willing to risk getting letters in the mail with a bullet in them, are you?

Remarkably easy to find the petition and activist group. Of no surprise, they are in the LGA closest to the airport.

This thread is obviously going to embody a greater superset argument which is the expansion of MEL operations.

The group does raise valid issues per se, though if the build up of residents in that region was due to poor planning on the part of the State then the latter has only itself to blame for impeding its own progress. Then again, I thought there would be more Darryl Kerrigans in the area, who wouldn't mind (as long as we don't touch their land)?

Maybe this gives greater credence for expanding operations at AVV (which I would assume has much less residents in the surroundings and certainly those who could be affected in flight paths).

Hey, at least they aren't pushing the chemtrail "theory" (God forbid)... though if the group is "progressive" and supportive of another development solution, it'd be really nice to hear some of their alternative ideas? (Go bug another community - not us - with more air traffic?)

 

[leemin]

Already activist group is up an running with a petition for the following:

(not pasting the link for this quote, as I don't agree with the petition, if someone else wants to they can)

That petition does not meet the requirements of the Parliament and will not be able to be tabled

 

[anat0l]

That petition does not meet the requirements of the Parliament and will not be able to be tabled

Big deal - doesn't mean we've heard the last of them. Besides, they'll just learn and file a new one.

Disregarding an argument due to administrative reasons? I thought that's how politicians weasel out of their responsibilities...

 

[bossreggie]

The 3rd & 4th runways are marked on my 1988 Melways
This runway is more western than what is shown as the 4th in 1988 Melways.
1988 Melways 3rd is now industrial buildings.

Slightly O/T... But do you not think it's time to update your Melways?? :shock:

Boss

 

[pshepvic]

Plenty of changes already underway (or completed) - revised departure ramp work, additional gates, additional retail space, more smartgates and customs capacity, new control tower, revised airport entrances of the Tulla freeway. It's not like the rest of the airport has been standing still....

Really? I haven't seen any improvements to traffic, transport, or customs queues lately. Add the fact that at least 4 times this year I've arrived back and we've had to sit waiting for a gate because there were none available, and I'm not filled with confidence.


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[whatmeworry]

To those protesting the proposed third runway are much like those who protest the noise coming from rail lines. They knew the Airport/Rail Line was close by when they bought their home and that possibly the Airport/ Rail Line might expanded or upgraded. Yet they choose to buy their home, knowing full well why their home costed less. Anyway the protesting group is irrelevant as most live in labour strongholds at the state level and federally, so the Liberals will not give a flying f@#! and the sitting labour members of the surrounding electorates that are probably on the backbench will now enjoy the extra places their QFF points will now take them!

 

[whatmeworry]

So with this great new runway, are we getting more gates? A bigger customs and arrivals hall with more staff? Train transport to the airport? More parking? Better roadways in, to avoid making the traffic even worse than now?

Or is this one of those things where all the money will be spent on the runway, with nothing left for anything else?

In Australia, we have the mentality of "if you build it" eventually in a couple of decades we build might the rest of the infrastructure it needs. Just have a look at estates on the fringes around MEL.

Crucially MEL needs IMO two train links. One a fast link to the CBD and the other a slower link, a bit like FRA. Not to mention have public buses that stop at the majority of terminals at MEL.

IMHO they also could easily have a bus that starts from Footscray train station that goes via Highpoint and continues via Kelior/Avondale Heights and goes the back way to MEL. Knowing the area, that particular north west corridor has poor public transport links. Seriously they have a smart bus from Frankston to MEL via the whole zone 2 (the long way), yet we can't get proper public transport that goes rather directly to MEL that gets us to the main terminals because of special interest groups! :evil: :evil: