DJ J trip Report

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Currently sitting on a 738 in J and hopefully can give a review of the changed service levels, off to a good start with a LM mock tail with Ginseng, Lime and raspberry, very refreshing!
 
Lunch was the choice of sheppards pie or Asian salad with tofu, with Dukkah/Olive Oil and a very nice tart, however traveling with a nut allergy sufferer, both the Dukkah and Tart were not edible, with no alternatives available. There was a choice of three wines which were very good, however having chosen the pie I found it very bland and disappointing.

In hindsight I found the meal to be slightly below in quality to similar lunch servings in J with QF, but a sample of 1 is after all not a big sample statistically, so I will have to do some more flights to confirm ;).
 
Thanks for the report :)

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OP-Up this morning. CBR-MEL absolutely chockas on the flight.
Breakfast was a fruit salad, croisant and choice of ricotta pancakes or bacon and mushroom filo wrap with lots of cheese on top. I had the wrap and it was quite good. Higher standard of food than QF I feel, but the foil was taken off once it was my table.

It seems there's not much space for them to arrange anything on the cart as it's really small. I think the galley is heaps smaller than QF, so they do all the arranging back there unlike QF who do it on the cart.

Coffee was offerred, smelled ok but I didn't have any.

No pre-takeoff juice or newspapers.

I'll try to take pics on the return Sunday night on a paid J ticket, but a bit embarassed.

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OP-Up this morning. CBR-MEL absolutely chockas on the flight.
Breakfast was a fruit salad, croisant and choice of ricotta pancakes or bacon and mushroom filo wrap with lots of cheese on top. I had the wrap and it was quite good. Higher standard of food than QF I feel, but the foil was taken off once it was my table.

It seems there's not much space for them to arrange anything on the cart as it's really small. I think the galley is heaps smaller than QF, so they do all the arranging back there unlike QF who do it on the cart.

Coffee was offerred, smelled ok but I didn't have any.

No pre-takeoff juice or newspapers.

I'll try to take pics on the return Sunday night on a paid J ticket, but a bit embarassed.

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:) Nah don't feel embarrased, i used to feel that way too when i was taking pictures for trip reports but not anymore.

You just have to have more front than a david jones store.

Dont worry what people think. I mean, you're in J class, lol so who cares what others think.
 
Pending the return of his camera... Here's a little link to one I posted on here previously.

shepherd's pie on virgin
 
Pending the return of his camera... Here's a little link to one I posted on here previously.

shepherd's pie on virgin

It would be better without those mashed peas in the middle! Hate having to dodge them!
 
Lunch was the choice of sheppards pie or Asian salad with tofu, with Dukkah/Olive Oil and a very nice tart, however traveling with a nut allergy sufferer, both the Dukkah and Tart were not edible, with no alternatives available. There was a choice of three wines which were very good, however having chosen the pie I found it very bland and disappointing.

Sounds like the same menu I had before Christmas. I had done a little bit of flying in Y in the weeks prior, on both QF and DJ, and the DJ J experience seemed like heaven in comparison.


In hindsight I found the meal to be slightly below in quality to similar lunch servings in J with QF, but a sample of 1 is after all not a big sample statistically, so I will have to do some more flights to confirm

Yes, I'd agree with that. With the reasonable P+P deals going I'm not complaining, its excellent value, but I have reservations about paying essentially a QF cash price for the DJ 737 product in J.

DJ on these aircraft at least are, I think, not going for a full frontal assault with QF. Seems more like a PE++ type thing going on. I guess there are limitations because of the nature of the aircraft.

Having said all this though, QF is simply laughing at us with PER-MEL J pricing at $3K return on the rattly old 767's
 
Yes, I'd agree with that. With the reasonable P+P deals going I'm not complaining, its excellent value, but I have reservations about paying essentially a QF cash price for the DJ 737 product in J.

DJ on these aircraft at least are, I think, not going for a full frontal assault with QF. Seems more like a PE++ type thing going on. I guess there are limitations because of the nature of the aircraft.

Having said all this though, QF is simply laughing at us with PER-MEL J pricing at $3K return on the rattly old 767's

Is this deduction made from comparing narrow body product with wide body product? I'm not going to strike up a QF vs. DJ debate, however, from my experience the two airlines offer a very similar product on their narrow body fleets in J. Qantas 737 J and Virgin 737 J have only small differences, hence I find it odd that you would see the DJ product as intentionally inferior to target a separate "just slightly below" J market?
 
Is this deduction made from comparing narrow body product with wide body product?

Thats fair. I hadn't finished my morning coffee when I wrote that and combined two thought processes into one blurb.


I'm not going to strike up a QF vs. DJ debate, however, from my experience the two airlines offer a very similar product on their narrow body fleets in J. Qantas 737 J and Virgin 737 J have only small differences, hence I find it odd that you would see the DJ product as intentionally inferior to target a separate "just slightly below" J market?

Yes, I'll cop that, fair criticism.
 
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Thats fair. I hadn't finished my morning coffee when I wrote that and combined two thought processes into one blurb.

Yes, I'll cop that, fair criticism.

I didn't mean it as criticism sorry :oops:, I was more interested in your thinking. I see you had your patriotic sleep in as well? :lol:
 
Is this deduction made from comparing narrow body product with wide body product? I'm not going to strike up a QF vs. DJ debate, however, from my experience the two airlines offer a very similar product on their narrow body fleets in J. Qantas 737 J and Virgin 737 J have only small differences, hence I find it odd that you would see the DJ product as intentionally inferior to target a separate "just slightly below" J market?
Fair call to make Noob, but if a superior QF product is available on larger aircraft on the same route, to me DJ has the inferior product, EVEN if we're comparing aircraft without regard to class (narrow/widebody etc)I completely agree about the 737 V 737 comparison, however if you have the option of QF J in an A332 V DJ J in a 737 on MEL-PER, which would most people prefer? (and yes, i say this knowing that DJ J is not far from being introduced on the A332 MEL-PER and VV) And for the record, and I'd still prefer Virgins J ;) #fanboyism
 
I have now done 3 flights on the new true J product on the Virgin 738. Unfortunately pretty unimpressed with most aspects so far but I will give it a bit (I stress a bit) more time to come up to scratch. Ultimately you cannot win customers on smiles alone and the food service and IFE situation really is a total balls-up.:(
 
I have now done 3 flights on the new true J product on the Virgin 738. Unfortunately pretty unimpressed with most aspects so far but I will give it a bit (I stress a bit) more time to come up to scratch. Ultimately you cannot win customers on smiles alone and the food service and IFE situation really is a total balls-up.:(

I'll report back late tonight or tomororw, after my 2 flights....

No IFE is a big FAIL to me, but I have a tablet
Food - Can be easily fixed and I should get 1 x dinner and 1 x supper service.

I have flown QF Domestic J about 8 times in the past few years, and have always been impressed.

We'll see
 
I have now done 3 flights on the new true J product on the Virgin 738. Unfortunately pretty unimpressed with most aspects so far but I will give it a bit (I stress a bit) more time to come up to scratch. Ultimately you cannot win customers on smiles alone and the food service and IFE situation really is a total balls-up.:(


In the interest of productive discussion, could you elaborate on what made the flights unimpressive?

Fair call to make Noob, but if a superior QF product is available on larger aircraft on the same route, to me DJ has the inferior product, EVEN if we're comparing aircraft without regard to class (narrow/widebody etc)I completely agree about the 737 V 737 comparison, however if you have the option of QF J in an A332 V DJ J in a 737 on MEL-PER, which would most people prefer? (and yes, i say this knowing that DJ J is not far from being introduced on the A332 MEL-PER and VV) And for the record, and I'd still prefer Virgins J ;) #fanboyism

QF operates A330-200, 767-300, 737-800 and sometimes A330-300 aircraft on the MEL-PER route. The majority of flights i.e. 85% of flights every day are domestically configured aircraft which have a seat pitch in J of roughly 37-38 inches - identical to what Virgin currently offers on their 737-800 aircraft.

Therefore sure QF product is going to be better on the same route if you book a flight with an internationally configured aircraft.


No IFE is a big FAIL to me, but I have a tablet

There is IFE, a Dig-e-player is offered.

Please elaborate on the difference between being offered a Dig-e-player with a choice of entertainment options as an interim solution and having an overhead tv every few rows on the majority of QF domestic aircraft?



Source: http://www.theqantassource.com/ & http://www.qantas.com.au/
 
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In the interest of productive discussion, could you elaborate on what made the flights unimpressive?

Actually I don't really feel like engaging in lengthy elaboration.
There is nothing exciting or interesting about the service, the F&B, the cabin, the seat or the IFE. In fact they are all very ordinary.
Having flown hundreds of J flights on over 20 airlines (and I am referring to short - medium haul J ), this is not a particularly impressive product.
 
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