Qantas A330 Economy Review (Sydney-Singapore)

Qantas Airbus A330-200 at Sydney Airport
Qantas Airbus A330-200 at Sydney Airport. Photo: Matt Graham.

Australians flying to Singapore are spoilt for choice.

Singapore Airlines has by far the highest number of flights between Australia and the Lion City. But Qantas also offers six daily flights with service from Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane and Perth. British Airways, Emirates, Scoot, Jetstar serve the Australia-Singapore market as well.

On a recent trip to Singapore, I decided to fly Qantas outbound from Australia and then return on Singapore Airlines. Both flights were in Economy. So, how did the two airlines compare on the popular Sydney-Singapore route?

This review covers my Qantas A330 Economy Class experience on QF81 from Sydney to Singapore…

Flight Details

Flight number QF81
Route Sydney (SYD) to Singapore (SIN)
Aircraft type Airbus A330-200 (short-haul configuration)
Class of travel Economy
Seat number 24K
On-time performanceWe arrived 2 hours & 40 minutes late
Star rating3.5 stars out of 5

The route

QF81 route map from Sydney to Singapore

Flight Cost

I paid 25,200 Qantas Frequent Flyer points + $181.32 in taxes & carrier charges for a one-way Economy ticket from Brisbane to Singapore via Sydney. (I had flown in from Brisbane to Sydney on the morning of the Sydney-Singapore flight.)

For a one-way Qantas Economy flight just from Sydney to Singapore, you could expect to pay around 25,200 Qantas points + $138 for a Classic Reward or around $697 for an Economy Saver airfare.

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A Last-Minute Aircraft Swap

My Qantas flight from Sydney to Singapore was originally supposed to be on an Airbus A380. I was looking forward to flying on the double-decker super-jumbo.

Unfortunately, on the morning of the flight, Qantas changed the aircraft to a much smaller Airbus A330-200. As a result, the flight was suddenly very full and Qantas had to downgrade quite a few passengers booked in First, Business or Premium Economy. This included the passenger sitting next to me in Economy, who had originally booked Business and had not yet been told how he would be compensated.

Airport Experience

I had already checked in for this flight in Brisbane. So, on arrival in Sydney, I got onto the terminal transfer bus and headed directly to the international terminal.

Qantas SYD international transfer
Qantas international transfer service at Sydney Airport. Photo: Matt Graham.

A Qantas Economy Class ticket doesn’t automatically get you lounge access. However, thanks to my Qantas Platinum (Oneworld Emerald) status, I was able to grab a bite to eat in the Qantas First Lounge before boarding.

It’s always a treat to visit this lounge. The staff are fantastic and the food wouldn’t be out of place in a fine-dining restaurant.

It would be nice if the lounge staff were able to make cocktails not listed on the menu (such as an espresso martini), but the options on the menu are still very good.

Stir-fried duck with a Manhattan Spritz cocktail in the Qantas First Lounge
Stir-fried duck with a Manhattan Spritz cocktail in the Qantas First Lounge. Photo: Matt Graham.

If you’re a Qantas Club member, a Qantas Gold or Oneworld Sapphire frequent flyer, or have a Qantas lounge invitation, you could access the neighbouring Qantas international Business Lounge. There are also several other lounges in the Sydney international terminal that you could access via Priority Pass.

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As lounge access is not a standard inclusion with a Qantas Economy ticket, the First Lounge is not a factor contributing to my rating of this flight. But I’ve included this information as it may be of interest to some readers.

The boarding process began with priority boarding, which worked very well.

The Hard Product

Having expected to be flying on an Airbus A380, it was a little bit disappointing to board a much smaller Airbus A330-200 without seatback in-flight entertainment screens.

Qantas Airbus A330-200 Economy seats
Qantas Airbus A330-200 Economy seats. Photo: Matt Graham.

This was one of the A330-200s configured for short-haul flying. In-flight entertainment was available via an iPad in the seat pocket that you could attach to the back of the seat in front after take-off. The Qantas iPad was loaded with some movies, TV shows and audio books. But there was no music, and no moving map to find out where you were or how much longer the flight would take.

iPad connected to Q-Streaming in Qantas economy class IFE
On this version of Qantas’ A330-200, in-flight entertainment is provided via iPads connected to Q-Streaming. Photo: Matt Graham.

On the plus side, I like the 2-4-2 Economy Class layout on the Airbus A330. The seat was also fairly comfortable. It’s about as wide as it gets in Economy, has an adjustable headrest and is well padded, with plenty of support. (The AFF forum has a discussion thread about the Qantas A330 Economy seat comfort.)

Being one of the A330s normally used for short-haul flying, free Wi-Fi was also available for the first half of the flight while we were still over Australia. That was a nice surprise as you wouldn’t normally get this when flying on Qantas’ A380.

Qantas A330-200 domestic Economy cabin
Qantas A330-200 domestic Economy cabin. Photo: Matt Graham.

The legroom was fine but there was no net for your feet, as you would find on Qantas A330-300s.

Qantas A330-200 Economy Class legroom and seatback
Qantas A330-200 Economy Class legroom. Photo: Matt Graham.

Although I took this flight in August 2023, the Qantas Magazine in the seat pocket was from June 2023 and had clearly had liquid spilt on it.

Qantas magazine
The magazine in my seat pocket was two months out-of-date and in a poor condition. Photo: Matt Graham.

Unfortunately, the rest of the cabin wasn’t in the greatest condition either. The plane was clean on a superficial level, but was probably due for a deep clean. For example, there were a lot of crumbs and dirt between the seats. For what it’s worth, this plane had been parked in Sydney for over 14 hours before operating this flight.

Dirt between seats in Qantas economy class
This aircraft seemed to be in need of a bit of TLC, including a deep clean. Photo: Matt Graham.

The Soft Product

The Qantas cabin crew were cheerful and made everyone feel welcome. Unfortunately for them, they had to deal with a lot of unhappy passengers whose aisle or window seats had been changed into middle seats at the last minute, due to the aircraft swap.

We boarded on time but then sat on the ground for quite a while. Eventually, the captain announced that they had found a problem with one of the plane’s engines. They needed to fix this before we could depart.

Now, that’s absolutely fair enough and I fully support the safety-first approach. Maintenance issues can happen at any time on any airline. Unfortunately, the pilots didn’t initially know how long it would take to fix the problem – other than that it would take at least an hour for the engineers to get approval to start their work.

We didn’t get any further updates for more than two hours, which was when they finally got approval to start the repair. I found the lack of communication throughout the delay – even if it was just to say that they were still waiting for approval – a tad disappointing.

In the meantime, although the plane was still parked at the gate, nobody was allowed off. We ended up sitting on the plane for three hours before eventually being able to depart.

The cabin crew made the best of a bad situation, handing out snacks and orange juice during the delay. The Customer Service Manager also came to personally welcome me on board as a Platinum member and offer me a soft drink or water while we were still on the ground.

Nuts, pretzels and soda water in Qantas economy class
The cabin crew handed out drinks and snack mixes during the extended delay. Photo: Matt Graham.

The Customer Service Supervisor was also really good, addressing me by name and regularly checking in on me during the flight.

There was a blanket, pillow and a bottle of water on every Economy seat during boarding.

After take-off, there were three hot meal choices available for lunch:

  • Garlic chicken with rice and vegetables
  • Beef casserole with mashed potato
  • Cauliflower curry

I asked for the vegetarian curry, but they had already run out of this option upon reaching the third row of Economy. So, I opted for the chicken instead. It was quite nice and came with a warm garlic focaccia slice and unlimited drinks from the bar including soft drinks, beer, wine and spirits. I enjoyed a Bloody Mary with lunch.

Garlic chicken for lunch on QF81
Garlic chicken with rice for lunch on QF81. Photo: Matt Graham.

Afterwards, the crew offered tea, coffee and a Splice ice cream for dessert – an Australian classic that takes me back to my childhood!

Streets pine lime Splice for dessert on QF81
An Aussie classic: Pine lime Splices for dessert on QF81. Photo: Matt Graham.

Around three hours into the flight, the crew requested for everyone to lower their window shades, creating a dark cabin environment. Throughout the rest of the flight, crew members would regularly came through the aisle to offer water (and at one point, soy crisps).

The pre-landing snack was a choice between a chicken, cheese and caramelised onion panini or vegetable samosas.

A chicken, cheese and caramelised onion panini was the pre-arrival snack
A chicken, cheese and caramelised onion panini was the pre-arrival snack. Photo: Matt Graham.

Due to the late arrival, many passengers had missed their connecting flights and were rebooked onto new flights – most of which were the next day. Around 50 passengers connecting to Dubai and Helsinki would still make their connections, but had to run to their next boarding gates.

After landing, the Customer Service Manager requested that anyone not connecting to Dubai or Helsinki remained seated to allow those who needed to hurry to disembark first. I’d already missed my planned dinner in Singapore, so wasn’t really in a rush by this point.

Qantas Airbus A330-200 Economy Class
  • Airport Experience
  • Hard Product
  • Soft Product
3.5

Final thoughts

The Qantas A330 isn’t a bad way to fly, with comfortable seating in Economy. The cabin crew were great and the food was OK, albeit nothing to write home about.

Overall, the flight was fine. But there were several areas for improvement. The last-minute aircraft change, the lack of communication during the delay, the cleanliness of the plane and running out of a meal choice by the third row were all slightly disappointing.

The iPad entertainment without a moving map isn’t ideal either for an 8-hour flight, but it was a pleasant surprise to get free Wi-Fi for the first half of the journey.

Ultimately, I didn’t experience any of the same problems on my return flight with Singapore Airlines, which was very comfortable and even arrived slightly early. However, one thing that will keep me coming back to Qantas (if the price is right and I still have status) is its airport lounges – especially the excellent First Lounges in both Sydney and Singapore.

One final comment: This particular Qantas flight between Sydney and Singapore is now being operated by Finnair most days.

 

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Three and a half stars seems... generous...

I did SIN-MEL on an A333 a few months ago, and had similar feelings about the grottiness of the cabin. The touchpoints on the fabric on my seat - originally red - were black, the recline on my seat didn't work properly and the magazine holder on the seat next to me was broken causing it to flop down. This on a plane that was refurbished only about six years ago.

Couple that with the fact they didn't get the IFE operating until we were up in the air (although it seems I was lucky to even get it!) and it was a pretty disappointing experience. At least the food and crew were decent.

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I don't think the first class lounge justifies such a subpar international flight. I would be outraged and I would be writing a complaint to Qantas. This airline is being forgiven too many faults by so many Australians due to sentiment. They've simply become too complacent. Should competition be allowed equal access to Australia and its international and domestic routes Qantas would be gone.

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Three and a half stars seems... generous...

I did SIN-MEL on an A333 a few months ago, and had similar feelings about the grottiness of the cabin. The touchpoints on the fabric on my seat - originally red - were black, the recline on my seat didn't work properly and the magazine holder on the seat next to me was broken causing it to flop down. This on a plane that was refurbished only about six years ago.

Couple that with the fact they didn't get the IFE operating until we were up in the air (although it seems I was lucky to even get it!) and it was a pretty disappointing experience. At least the food and crew were decent.

Earlier this month I did MEL-SIN on A332 as well with the ipad based IFE, which didn't actually start operating until 90 minutes into the flight. Some other noteworthy points:
- Food was reasonable
- Service took a very long time to complete
- Some staff were great others were quite brusk almost rude when people requested things
- Didn't see any water runs through the cabin
- By the end of the flight the toilets were, um well, quite disgusting and had run out of toilet paper. Not up the standards I'm used to on JQ and SQ.
- My seat was actually a bit dirty with some food crusts on it.

Overall, I know people love Qantas and hate on Jetstar, but this was my third MEL-SIN this year on JQF, the first two on JQ this one on QF. We used BA avios for the flight, so it was good value. But if paying cash, I really don't see the value of the premium QF charge over JQ on this sector (it's usually about $200-300 vs Jetstar Plus bundle that gives points/luggage/meal). Yes, JQ often delays and cancels flights and that's a risk. But my original QF flight was cancelled, and this was the flight I was put on the next day , 19 hrs later, so that's not a given that JQ is bad and QF is great with respect to cancellations.

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Qantas A330 Economy Review (Sydney-Singapore) is an article written by the AFF editorial team:

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An excellent article, as always, @AFF Editor - enjoyed it. A very comprehensive article.

Surprising bit from the article - the vego option running out within 3 rows of Y - that's very surprising. If anything, I'd thought the vego options would be left overs, as most try and get the meat option. Also, on the topic of vego meals - I really wish QF would vary their vego offerings. I have been doing quite a few (by my standards, at least) International Y on QF this year and I have been consistently getting the same vego meal on the flights. I usually do the QF81/82, QF35/36 or QF67/68 and the vego meals offered on these routes are very, very identical and the same, in most cases. I really wish they'd offer something else for the vegos on board. It is always the cauliflower (curry or Tikka with potato & peas) or Rajma curry or Mixed Veg curry with potato & peas or poorly made biriyani/fried rice (especially on the QF68, ex-BLR, could you believe it!). How about throwing in some paneer cheese or varying the veggies a bit.

And the Italian/garlic/herb-infused bread - that does not go well with of the meals they offer on these flights. I'd think a sourdough (or something similar, a Vienna or Pana Di Casa, perhaps) would suit better. The thing with the Italian/Garlic/Herb-infused bread is that it's doughy, too crumbly (when it goes cold) and the only heat, I believe, the bread receives is when the bread is briefly warmed in the oven before service or the brief exposure to heat when the bread is ever so gently placed on top of the meal foil - neither of which, IMO, is sufficient to make the bread edible.

Re: CSM/CSC greeting - was greeted at the door and at the seat once again - was offered drinks before everyone in the cabin and proactive top ups of G&T without asking. So good experience on that front.

Seat clean - I noticed this too, last time I was on board the A330-200s. Although to be fair, I also observed it on the A380 last week (ex-SIN). There is definitely a deep clean required.

Re : IFE - Having the iPad's is actually a good thing - My recent QF67 had the old style IFE console - bad picture quality, touch screen was too patchy and had to literally punch the screen to get things working.

At the end of the day, the flights do take us from A to B and I'm grateful for that. However, there are some things that can be improved, greatly!

Long may we all fly 😀

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Only just went to Singapore 2 months ago. My bird wasn't switched out thankfully, still got the A380, but the food leaves a lot to be desired imo. I remember the exact same panini as in the trip report lol. IFE wasn't lacklustre. I was expecting the have the view on the outside camera's. nope. Does QF not do this anymore? The movie offerings were pathetic also. Was meant to be coming back on A380 in J, but wasn't to be. Re-routed via Melbourne on B787. and the food offerings in J were a disgrace imo. If i'm using ff points, I guess i have to take what ever metal is available, but if I'm paying, i'll be looking at a better carrier, like emirates or singapore airlines. The food i got on SQ economy for 1:30hr flight was better imo than QF J long haul.

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The most key items of an airline in my view are
- Getting you there in once piece - obvious really
- On time arrival - customers have plans they have made and rely on
- Providing the product that have been paid for - value for money, comparison and feeling of fairness

In this case 3.5* I think is way too generous for a flight that was meant to be an A380, and should have arrived as scheduled. Especially for connecting passengers, that this route implies most would be on, is particularly poor form.

What is most distasteful in the change of aircraft is the inevitable downgrades that follow, you just know that QF will not be interested at all in owning the issue but rely on the fact just they consider just to get you from A-B is all that is required. Then to add a 3 hour delay on top by not having a flight ready aircraft (clean and engineering checked) goes to show the contempt they have for schedules and their customers own plans and respect how customers made their commercial choice to choose QF in the first place.

Unfortunately this is the QF way now. Its fleet resilience is now so thin its happening very frequently. Especially on its international routes - and what is most surprising this happened at the main Sydney hub! Good luck for any help if you are stranded elsewhere.

Personally I actively avoid QF internationally for just this specific reason. Their ability to respond to downtime (which does happen) is not factored in to their schedules. They just run too lean. Add that with inflexible and merciless compensation policies which don't appreciate should things go wrong (which now is the norm for QF), makes QF too risky an option and hard work.

This has the ongoing impact to you personally if you rely on QF to be a premium product, expect to get what you pay for, and being able to keep to your own personal plans. QF are now a JQ airline at QF prices. Now Id rather choose others over QF any day, especially if the price is the same.

One final comment for flight reviewers who travel in Economy, and then slum it in the first class lounge. You are not getting the full experience of Economy that most travelers would be getting. I know it was noted as not being factored in the score, but if you are going to be a genuine economy traveler, then try to do a review without the status, the personal touch, the lounge, which are very personal in nature. My feeling the score here would be a 1 or 2 as their rating- because those travelers would be more annoyed with the lack of an airline simply being able to meet the basic product requirements.

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Those 332s really need a refurb in Y - not a competitive product anymore.

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Sounds like the only positive thing about the whole flight was the comfortable 2-4-2 on the A330, which is standard for all full-service carriers (I really like this aircraft for this reason). So anything Qantas-specific was poor and clearly not 3.5 stars.

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In addition to the poor resilience of QFi to any sort of disruption, I think one main issue is that a lot of Qantas aircraft they fly to Asia and New Zealand just feel so dated compared to their competitors. Trans-tasman AirNZ has a320/1neos which feel much more modern than Qantas' 737s, and to most Asian destinations competitors are flying relatively new 787/A350 family aircraft, or recently refurbished 777s, whereas Qantas is flying mostly A330s.

Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with A330s (e.g. the Finnair A330s that Qantas will operate soon are pretty fresh looking inside), but Qantas really hasn't kept up with the maintenance of these aircraft interiors, both in terms of cleaning and fixing what's broken.

Ultimately I feel like Qantas simply doesn't have enough capacity now to pull aircraft off for refurbishment, and I feel like the major reason for this is just poor planning on their part, or a desire against large fleet upgrade expenditure.

Even if COVID hadn't happened, whilst Qantas would probably have more capacity and reliability right now (due to the 747-400s), those aircraft would still have very dated interiors operating. Maybe it'd have allowed them to run their A330s less hard and refurbish them by now though.

Either way, I think it's poor planning on their part that got them to this stage (and now a desire for running as many routes as they can instead of scaling back to maintain reliability), and I don't think this will improve until FY27 when the 787-10s start arriving.

Same (re. poor planning) can be said about the current state of the SYD Domestic & International Business Lounges (COVID would've been a great time to refurbish...)

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It's not poor planning per se, it's just contempt for their customers.

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