Qantas Abandons Passengers Mid-Trip

Terminal 3 Qantas check-in area at Sydney Airport
Qantas completely abandoned multiple passengers after they missed their connections. Photo: Matt Graham.

When booking a series of flights on one ticket, you would expect to be looked after if the first flight was delayed and you missed your onward connection as a result. But this is not what happened to an AFF member who recently booked a Qantas ticket to Greece. In fact, Qantas abandoned the passengers mid-trip – leaving them thousands of dollars out of pocket.

AFF member papeto had redeemed Qantas points for two Business Class tickets from Sydney to Athens, flying via Brisbane and Doha. The first flight was on Qantas, with the international sectors to be operated by Qatar Airways.

One day before travelling, Qantas cancelled the Sydney-Brisbane flight that papeto and their travelling companion were originally booked on, moving them to another one departing three hours later. Despite calling the airline three times and requesting an earlier flight when checking in ay Sydney Airport, Qantas would not offer anything else. That later Sydney-Brisbane flight was then delayed, meaning they ultimately missed their connecting flight from Brisbane to Doha.

Qantas then abandoned its passengers

This missed connection was entirely Qantas’ fault, and all of the flights were booked on the same Qantas Classic Reward ticket. So, at this point, one would expect any respectable airline to simply rebook the passengers onto another flight. Instead, while Qantas did at least provide a hotel for the night, they then abandoned these passengers in Brisbane.

Qantas did not rebook them to Greece, and wouldn’t even fly them back home to Sydney. The airline simply offered a refund and wiped its hands of responsibility, leaving its passengers no choice but to buy expensive last-minute replacement tickets.

Papeto posted on the Australian Frequent Flyer forum:

At the airport we are told they will accommodate us in a hotel and provide new iteniaries in the morning. Qantas call centre will contact us. Next morning by 10 am no call, so we call the call centre. They inform us they can’t help us and will refund us. I point out there is availability on Qatar on Monday, but they say they can only book in the same fare class, so can’t help. Ask to escalate to manager, get a supervisor who tells me the same thing. They also state they won’t fly us back to Sydney, you have to book a new flight on your own and pay for it.

The replacement flights to Europe cost over $7,000 for both passengers. To add insult to injury, the new flights were in Economy despite the original ticket being for Business Class. Papeto also arrived three days late at their destination in Europe and had to cancel or change multiple other internal European flights and hotel bookings at additional expense due to the delay.

Papeto says that there were around 30 other passengers from the same delayed Sydney-Brisbane flight who also missed connecting flights that evening, and that all of them were similarly fobbed off by Qantas.

Qantas treatment was the same to all pax on that flight, irrespective of what tickets they had booked. We chatted to the other pax on the flight in the morning and they were all treated the same. Actually one of the pax had booked directly with Qatar directly and she was also referred back to Qantas. None were re-booked by Qantas or further acccommodated.

We did speak to staff at the airport, but it appears all ticketing has been moved online (there is no sales desk at the airports apparantly) and there is not much they can do. They were helpful in getting a delay letter issued and also web adress to where I should complain / claim, so lets see how it goes. The general impression I got was that staff was emphatic, but there hands were tied by management. Also got the impression, they have been dealing with this a lot.

Is this how Qantas customers should expect to be treated?

Clearly, this kind of treatment is not acceptable and not normal, especially for an airline like Qantas which calls itself a full service airline and the “spirit of Australia”.

Officially, Qantas’ policy where a flight is delayed or cancelled is to rebook customers on the next available flight – regardless of whether they paid in cash or points. If a suitable alternative flight can’t be found, and only then, Qantas would offer a refund. Where possible, Qantas also says it proactively re-accommodates customers onto earlier domestic flights to ensure they make their international connections.

I saw examples of Qantas staff proactively rebooking passengers to give them a longer international connection, and rebooking other customers with missed connections, at no charge, this morning at Melbourne Airport. But this is clearly not what has happened with the passengers stranded in Brisbane.

A Qantas spokesperson told Australian Frequent Flyer that papeto should have been rebooked at no cost.

“When there are disruptions our teams investigate all options to support customers, including pro-actively rebooking customers on the next available service to get to their destination or rerouting on other services where possible,” the Qantas spokesperson said.

“Unfortunately, in this instance our customer agent provided incorrect advice. The customer should have been rebooked onto the next available flight.

“We have reached out to the customer to sincerely apologise for the frustration and inconvenience this disruption caused and find a remedy.”

Papeto informed us that someone from Qantas did contact them after we got involved to ask them to submit a claim form, but said that the Qantas staff member did not apologise.

Not so easy to change to an earlier connecting flight…

Trying to avoid a similar fate, another AFF member, blackcat20, has been trying for weeks to change their domestic connection after a Qantas schedule change left them without sufficient time to make their international flight. This should be a simple enough request as there is award availability on earlier flights, but they’ve been stonewalled every step of the way by Qantas’ South African call centre and haven’t been able to reach anyone at Qantas’ Hobart call centre.

Other AFF members have reported similar problems with trying to change their flights – which they have to do over the phone as the Qantas website doesn’t offer the option.

Qantas has form in abandoning passengers

Last week, there was another highly-publicised incident in which Qantas abandoned an entire planeload of Wellington-bound passengers at Christchurch Airport in the middle of the night.

Flight QF163 departed Sydney too late to arrive in Wellington before that airport’s curfew, so the plane diverted to Christchurch where it landed after 2am. There were no Qantas staff on hand to assist passengers on arrival, and no hotels were provided, leaving passengers to sleep on the floor of the airport. (In this case, the flight did at least continue to Wellington at 8.45am the next morning – and the passengers weren’t charged extra for the privilege of being on board!)

Jetstar also made headlines last week after it cancelled a Hamilton Island-Sydney flight due to engineering issues. There were no hotels available on Hamilton Island, so Jetstar ferried the passengers to Airlie Beach… then just left them there.

 

Join the discussion on the Australian Frequent Flyer forum: Flight delayed, missed connection and abandoned by Qantas

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Ouch. That is a very poor situation. I would be equally livid under the circumstances. Unfortunately, I fear its going to be a long and difficult journey to obtain right and proper remedy for this disruption and costs incurred.

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So this happend to me and about 30 other passengers on Friday travelling to Europe. We had a Qantas ticketed flight from Sydney to various european destinations on Qatar Airways via Brisbane. First leg was Syd to Bne on Qantas. Flight was meant to leave Sydney at 16:50 with connection on Qatar leaving at 22:40 out of Brisbane.

Day before Qantas cancels 16:50 flight and rebook us on 19:35 flight. Three calls to call centre to get it moved earlier, to no avail they can’t move it.

Check in early at Sydney and ask again to be moved early - nope can’t help.

So 19:35 flight gets delayed by over an hour due to “operational issues” and we miss our connection to Doha, but are now stranded in Brisbane.

At the airport we are told they will accommodate us in a hotel and provide new iteniaries in the morning. Qantas call centre will contact us. Next morning by 10 am no call, so we call the call centre. They inform us they can’t help us and will refund us. I point out there is availability on Qatar on Monday, but they say they can only book in the same fare class, so can’t help. Ask to escalate to manager, get a supervisor who tells me the same thing. They also state they won’t fly us back to Sydney, you have to book a new flight on your own and pay for it.

So I have now booked the Qatar flight ( 3 times originawl cost) and am typing it on the aircraft atm.

I have been delayed three days from my original iteniary, hotels and internsl flights in europe had to be cancelled or changed at great cost. As mentioned the new flight is 3 times the coat as it is a last minute booking.

So my question to the brain trust is how do I get compensated for this by Qantas?

To be clear I am livid about the poor service provided by Qantas and will lodge a complian. However I have racked up about $10 k in additional costs and bookings that couldn’t be refunded, so really eger to get Qantas to pay and some more.

Travel insurance won’t cover all - if they pay and require you to approach Qantas first. So any help from members that were in this predicament before would be appretiated.

I have never been in that situation, but I would cry. I would hope travel insurance would cover your costs. I would contact Qantas, keep your correspondence and then you have approached the airline as required by your travel insurance. Good luck, and enjoy your holiday.

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Was this revenue or award? You talk about fare classes so I assume it was revenue. Did you book through Qantas or a travel agent?

I was not aware QF sold revenue QR seats.

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Sounds like an award and they need to be rebooked in the award class.

QF can’t make awards available on QR and sadly this is an issue with partner awards. On a commercial fare QF would have to reaccommodated you, even on their own metal. Given school holidays and cabins running full, this would also be a challenge.

Now that you’ve been refunded, I’m not sure you can ask for more of a remedy.

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Sounds like an award and they need to be rebooked in the award class.

QF can’t make awards available on QR and sadly this is an issue with partner awards. On a commercial fare QF would have to reaccommodated you, even on their own metal. Given school holidays and cabins running full, this would also be a challenge.

Now that you’ve been refunded, I’m not sure you can ask for more of a remedy.

I think we need to wait to hear back from @papeto regarding if this was an award flight. The original post stated:

So I have now booked the Qatar flight ( 3 times original cost) and am typing it on the aircraft atm.

The specific mention of "3 times original cost" implies this was a paid fare, but the OP will need to confirm before we can assume either way.

However, I agree that if this was an award flight, then its likely QF was unable to rebook the passenger in an award fare class. But, the missed connection would appear to be QF's fault, so they should be doing everything possible to get the passenger to the ticketed destination regardless of the availability of award seats on whatever flights are available.

Disruption recovery seems to be a major problem for QF right now. I am especially concerned with the comment that QF offered a refund but would not return the passenger to their origin port, leaving them stranded part-way through an itinerary.

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Really sorry to hear @papeto.

I think there is a new trend here with how Qantas treats customers. There is no way I would accept at 7:35pm flight SYD-BNE that is due to arrive at 9:05pm for a 10:40pm international departure.

It's a catch 22. I'd book my own flight but then Qantas would stupidly cancel the itinerary due no show on their itinerary. We are told that Qantas provides protection on flights on same itinerary but here they have clearly abandoned their customer. Very poor.

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It doesn't really add up, so we'll need to wait for more detail

QF award - the issues are well documented on this forum
Separate QF/QR tickets - danger zone
QF revenue sold by QF - I don't think it's possible
QR revenue - QR is responsible
QF/QR revenue sold by third party - depends

QF cancelled flight should open up any flight that day regardless of fare - unless they were all sold out
QF offering to refund mid journey is extremely unusual - that doesn't sound right at all

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It doesn't really add up, so we'll need to wait for more detail

QF award - the issues are well documented on this forum
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I have seen lots of issue pre-departure, is that a common things those days to be abandoned (itinary canceled with points refoudn) by Qantas once the award on a single ticket itinerary has started? Especially where Qantas could use it's own metal to negotiate an outcome?

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I have seen lots of issue pre-departure, is that a common things those days to be abandoned (itinary canceled with points refoudn) by Qantas once the award on a single ticket itinerary has started? Especially where Qantas could use it's own metal to negotiate an outcome?

This is the first time I have seen a report of someone being abandoned part way through a journey, so I could not suggest there is anything common about this specific scenario. And we still do not know if this was a paid or award ticket. But regardless of being common and regardless of being paid or award ticket, what has been reported by the OP is far from acceptable customer service.

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QF revenue sold by QF - I don't think it's possible

Did you mean QR revenue sold by QF? If yes, I'd think (& happy to be corrected) that the airline I purchased the ticket from, regardless of the other partner airlines in the itinerary, is responsible for the whole ticket? So if I booked say a flight on QF website that involves a MH or JQ or QR segment (operated by the partner airline), then because I purchased the ticket from QF, isn't QF responsible?

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